Pink Shade - Pop and Bravo with Kate Casey, September 23 2026
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Hey, everybody.
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Welcome to Pink Shade.
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It is Thursday.
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That means we are going to talk about
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pop culture and Bravo.
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And I have an expert here to discuss.
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But first, I need to make an announcement.
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You guys, if you're on Pink Shade Prime,
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ten dollars and up, that's a month,
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not a week or a day.
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It's ten dollars a month.
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It's really nothing.
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If you're on that level on Pink Shade
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Prime tonight,
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we will have Pink Shade Live,
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which we do every Thursday night.
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Me, Keisha, Kimberly,
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we talk about things going on in pop
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culture news.
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And a lot of times Keisha and Kimberly
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will try to explain things to me like
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Mama June or
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Thousand Pound Sisters shows that even
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though I get in the gutter,
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I don't go quite that low.
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So they try to explain those shows to
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me.
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So that's always a good time.
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Last week when we did it, excuse me,
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last month when we did it,
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we all showed our feet to decide if
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we should try to go on only feet.
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Oh, dear God.
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None of us have made a dollar.
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You guys,
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my guest today is the amazing Kate Casey
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celebrating her ten years in podcasting.
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Ten years.
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Isn't that crazy?
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Yeah.
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Where's the time gone?
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If you would have had a party like
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Heather, I would have come.
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I did think about like,
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maybe I should have popped some champagne
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or something.
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I didn't do one thing.
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I know.
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I would have flown my ass right out
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there.
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Yeah, sure would.
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There's an opportunity that I might be
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going to LA in a few weeks.
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And the person with this event was like,
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well,
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we don't really pay for people to fly,
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blah, blah, blah.
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I was like,
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I don't think you know me.
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I'm not
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in that stratosphere where somebody would
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pay me to come,
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like I'll pay my own expenses.
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I just want to come kind of a
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thing.
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And, uh, I was like,
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I've flown further for less.
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Like I'll, I'll do anything.
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Uh, please,
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please just put me on a list to
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be invited to something.
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That's all I want is want to be
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invited.
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The TLC sphere.
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It is not TLC,
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but it's in that sphere.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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It's not something that you would want to
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go to.
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Don't worry.
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Well,
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I did go to the one years ago,
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the Ninety Day Fiance,
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when Paul from Ninety Day Fiance was
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wearing the mosquito vest.
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And then he told me some crazy stuff
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about his marriage.
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And then I talked about a little bit
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on my show.
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And then I got a call from TLC
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that he had called and complained.
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And that was one of several experiences in
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my first couple of years where I would
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meet a reality star and they would tell
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me things.
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And then I'd...
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Say, oh, I ran into so and so.
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And then they would complain about me.
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Like,
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do you remember Thomas Ravenel had a crazy
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girlfriend?
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Yeah,
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she called me and I had like an
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hour conversation.
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I was giving her life advice.
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And then the next day I recorded I
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was like, well, I talked to Ashley.
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She said that they broke up.
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And then Dave Quinn wrote about it for
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people.
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And then I got a call from Bravo
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and they said, you know,
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she's complained that, you know,
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you told secrets.
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I'm like,
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why are you calling a podcaster and
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talking to her for an hour and telling
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her all this stuff if you didn't want
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it to get out?
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So then, as you know,
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I just stopped talking to reality stars
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about their stuff.
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I'm like,
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there are very few that I will ever
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speak to because I just, I'm like,
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don't give me info that you want dropped
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and then act like you didn't do it.
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I don't like that.
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I completely agree.
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And I have some TLC cast that I
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am friendly with that I do text with
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sometimes to try to get some scoop.
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But if they say, don't say it,
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then I don't say it.
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Well, sure.
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Yeah.
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Because I'm not a monster.
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Let me be clear that the people that
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I got in, you know, phone calls about,
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they never said.
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Don't say it.
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And I was like,
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why would you call me?
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And like, oh,
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she seems like a lady that is like
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a quasi-therapist.
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Maybe I could talk.
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And I got mad too because I'm like,
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that was an hour of my time that
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you wasted.
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I could have been with my kids or
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something and you monopolized my time and
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then twisted it and made it seem like
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I was taking advantage of you.
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Like, give me a break.
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Do your kids go from age.
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Seventeen to six.
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Eight to seventeen.
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Eight.
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So high school senior to second grade.
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You and I have been friends for a
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long time.
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I know.
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Because when you had that fourth baby.
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She was a year.
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The fourth one I had.
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Just a year.
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My podcast.
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Began.
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A year and a day after.
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The fourth one was born.
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The podcast began a year and a day
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after the fourth one was born.
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Yeah.
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Sutton was born September of twenty
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fifteen.
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And then my podcast launched September
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eighteenth, twenty sixteen.
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I feel that's not right now.
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No, it is right.
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Obviously, you would know.
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Yeah.
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But I feel like when you did the
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reveal for the fifth baby.
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Yes.
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That was two years into my podcast.
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Okay.
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All right.
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So, okay.
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That's what I'm thinking.
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You had the fifth baby when you did
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the tennis ball and it exploded.
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Yes.
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I started crying.
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Yeah.
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And how old was Jack at that time?
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I think he was like four.
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He was four when you had four or
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five, maybe five.
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He was five.
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Because I was telling that story to my
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friend that's here, Emily,
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who is like my best friend from college.
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And we were in a store yesterday walking
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around and there's so much stuff that says
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like bride or Mr. and Mrs.
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And we were like, God,
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aren't we glad we didn't have weddings
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during the time of this stuff?
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Or she was like even better to have
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kids during the time when you have to
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do like a gift box to ask somebody
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to be a bridesmaid and then plan these
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elaborate trips.
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I'm glad I missed that window too.
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I didn't have bridesmaids at my wedding in
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Hawaii.
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I had bridesmaids the first wedding
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though.
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And I made them wear Ann Taylor sheath
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dresses that were wool and red because I
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wanted red bridesmaids dresses.
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The wedding was in June.
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Dumbass I was.
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I recently on this show, maybe on Prime,
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talked about my disdain for red
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bridesmaid's dresses.
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Oh, you did?
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Yeah.
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It's a difficult color and it doesn't look
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great on everybody.
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Yeah, it doesn't.
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Do you wear red regularly yourself?
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I do like red.
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Yeah.
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Yeah,
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I think it'll get on your hair color.
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It looks terrible on me.
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But I have a sister on blonde.
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My sister's brunette with all of skin and
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brown eyes.
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And she always tells me like,
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I can't wear red.
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I just feel like that's not true.
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I think she's being mean.
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She should.
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Yeah.
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Well,
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spend some time with her and you'll see.
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But I was telling Emily about that,
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about the hitting of the ball.
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And she goes, oh no,
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the little boy cried.
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How old was he?
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I go, eight.
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I go,
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I don't know how old he was.
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I go, she's got five kids.
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It was the fifth one.
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I can't keep up.
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I go,
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I do try to make sure I know
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all their names though.
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Yeah.
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I was shocked because I really thought I
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was having a boy.
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And so I think I talked to him.
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I was like,
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I think this one's a boy.
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And then he was just real let down.
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But they're buddies.
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Caroline and Jack are real tight.
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So it's fine.
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My nephew is pregnant with his third.
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And they have two boys.
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And so every kid on every side has
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a boy.
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So they just assume it's going to be
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a boy.
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But me and the oldest little boy,
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he's five.
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I'm like...
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Fist pump.
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Team girl.
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When are you going to find out?
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When the baby comes out.
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When's the baby due?
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She's having the baby October the day
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after my birthday.
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It's going to be born on your birthday.
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Sorry.
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I hope so.
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I feel like I've got an echo coming
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back from you.
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Will you check your settings again?
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Mm-hmm.
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Okay, because I am,
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my mic unplugged and I replugged it.
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No, it's fine.
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Okay, you're fine still.
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Okay.
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I'm looking,
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I've got it on the correct microphone,
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the correct AirPods.
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It just has echo-y effects.
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But like I said, I'm sitting here,
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my microphone unplugged and I replugged
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it.
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And it's working, I'm testing it.
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Oh, well.
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Okay.
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Ingrid will fix it.
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Okay.
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So we've got a lot to talk about
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because we've got right now three shows
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going on.
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Okay.
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We've got New York.
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Mm-hmm.
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New episode aired on Tuesday.
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We record this on Wednesdays.
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We've got Salt Lake City.
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Only one episode has been out that I've
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seen.
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Right.
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I think it comes on Thursdays.
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And then Ultimate Girls Trip.
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Mm-hmm.
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Ultimate Girls Trip,
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I'm enjoying because I find it to be
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light and airy and with a sprinkle of
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drunk Luann.
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I'm enjoying it.
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How about, how do you feel?
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I know you're not,
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we're not going to talk about OC because
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I'm not watching it.
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Ultimate Girls Trip, how are you feeling?
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Um...
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Some of the cities, I'm like,
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these women really need to get some
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attention.
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Like, OC in Miami,
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they're just going over the top.
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I mean,
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the Miami women are so mad about not
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being brought back that I think they're
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like, let's stick it to Bravo and just,
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like, amp it up.
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It's, like,
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not translating well because...
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The OGs are just like, huh?
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What?
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They didn't need to do the beach games.
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They should just go to like a Miami
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nightclub.
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That's all they needed to do.
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They didn't need to do beach games.
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But also like to get into these dumb
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fights within their cast.
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Right.
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It's like you're missing a beat.
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You know, Chris worked on it.
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He went...
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The first episode was in the OC.
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So the girls and I went down and
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had lunch with them.
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That's right.
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We went over to the hotel and there
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were...
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Yeah.
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You had to see how much luggage and
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crap the crew had.
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It was like two rooms filled with
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equipment.
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And then to know that the next day
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they were going to pack it all up
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and then go all the way to Kyle's
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house is kind of unbelievable.
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This traveling circus that they were able
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to do.
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Yeah.
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Um,
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I think that Vicky is completely a waste
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of money.
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I recorded with Carlos and I said to
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him, you are a producer.
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Why would you allow a woman to participate
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in a show like this and work while
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on the clock for another person?
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Because it's just her brand.
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He goes, oh, my God, you're right.
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I was like, why would you allow that?
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You're getting paid for this job.
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Put your computer away.
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Like, what?
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Great point, Kate.
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Great point.
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I'm like, that's ridiculous.
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And then also...
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Okay, on the OC, you know,
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Vicky's dating some weird guy, you know,
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Taylor's oldest time.
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And she notes that she's got that house
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in Cotto.
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She's got the condo in Puerto Vallarta.
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And then she's this property in Palm
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Springs.
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But she said she co-owns it with a
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boyfriend, but they're not married.
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now she spends so much time telling people
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that she's like the go-to for financial
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advice and another thing would you take a
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financial advice for someone who bought a
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property with a boyfriend who doesn't want
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to give her a ring yeah well he's
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going to give her a ring if she's
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nice okay she's got to be a good
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girl first i'm like get this woman off
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my tv i can't stand her
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I don't mind, Vicki.
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I, you know, and I'm,
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it's hard for me to turn on a
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housewife.
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The only housewife I never really just
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immediately, well, there's several,
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but that I immediately disliked was Jen
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Shaw.
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The minute she came on my screen,
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I didn't like her and then I couldn't
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stand it.
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And then when she was on Watch What
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Happens Live and
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had like a bullhorn and had a huge
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hat and they were all on screens cause
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it was COVID.
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And we were like, no,
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you're trying way too hard.
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Lydia.
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I never liked just because.
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Oh, that was a hard one.
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Yeah.
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Yeah.
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I don't like the trad wife without the
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banana bread kind of persona.
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Like that was Lydia and Alexis Bellino in
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the early days.
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I couldn't take her.
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I just was like,
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this is not a modern story for a
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woman to be like,
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my husband's the king and like going to
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the mega churches.
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And I just,
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I would love to know why she hasn't
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said anything like, boy,
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I've learned so much since that marriage,
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but maybe she still feels that way.
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I think Vicki, it's just,
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it's so interesting to me that just on
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camera, she's constantly like,
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Don's the one that got away.
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You're like, you have like, drop my name.
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Like, just stop, drop it.
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I think that either you or Heather or
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you or Heather were talking together or
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she said, one of you said it,
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that Vicki would really be a different
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person if Brianna and those grandkids live
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close by.
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Yeah, probably.
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Because she would have,
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that would kind of give her purpose.
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And this is,
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I'm saying this as someone who has sisters
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that have grandchildren and they're close
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by, most of them.
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And it really gives you,
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you really are very busy with it.
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And thrilled to be involved, you know?
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And so I think if Rihanna was close
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by and she could see those grandkids all
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the time,
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she probably wouldn't be so focused on my
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man, my man, my man, you know?
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No, I think she'd always be like that.
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She's just like one of those loser-y women
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who would drop her girlfriends for a guy.
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I don't like people like that.
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I'm like, hmm.
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Yeah,
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that's a lesson we all learned in college.
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Don't ever drop your girlfriends for a
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guy.
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Don't ever drop it.
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She would.
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She'd be like, hmm.
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I don't trust people like that.
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But guess what?
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We're talking about Vicki, so...
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Not for very long.
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Thoughts on Luann just getting so
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shit-faced and narcissistic on the girls'
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trip.
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I'm like, well, there she is.
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I have a hard time with people who
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talk nonstop about themselves.
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And I also have this pet peeve.
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It actually enrages me.
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if someone's in the middle of a really
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interesting story and they're like,
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because I feel like storytelling is such
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an intimate thing.
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And when you're sharing something and
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someone's listening and it's like going
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both ways, it's like magic.
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It's pure magic.
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And so when Luann interrupted that
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conversation where, um,
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Oh,
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she's talking about mama Elsa and
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everyone's just like caught up in the
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story.
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And then she like interjected.
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I really got angry.
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I got angry for, for Marisol.
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Like she just wanted that moment to share
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that story.
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And everybody was,
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it was just such a special moment.
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I can't stand people who do that.
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I agree.
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I, I,
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And we obviously know people like this in
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our lives.
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Everybody does.
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Where you're talking, talking,
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and just from over here,
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somebody else is either having a
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conversation and you're like,
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I'm trying to listen or I'm trying to
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tell something.
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And if you don't care,
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get up from the table.
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You're just being so rude.
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I hate it.
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I got to be honest with you.
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Sometimes I get mad when children come up.
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Like my kids know never, ever,
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because I make such a big deal.
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Like if I'm speaking to an adult,
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do not interrupt me.
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do not you wait till i'm done talking
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and then you can approach me do not
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interrupt me i could because it's such a
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pet peeve of mine but if i'm in
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the middle of something and like a story
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and then someone's you know and not a
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little kid but like i don't know like
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a ten-year-old or something is like yeah
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mom but i get which is irrational but
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in my brain i'm like i want to
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murder somebody because it's just such a,
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like when,
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when both people are so invested in a
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story, it's like, I don't want,
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I don't want it to something to come
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between it.
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I agree.
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I agree.
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By the way,
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my husband is the worst at that.
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There was one time,
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and if he were here, he'd be like,
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you talk to everybody.
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I was in a boutique,
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and I was talking to the woman that
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owns the boutique,
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and it was like twenty minutes into our
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conversation, she says, you know,
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I've never told anybody this before,
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but my mom's boyfriend went to Mexico and
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shot my dad.
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And I like I've kept it a secret.
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And she's telling me this.
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And Dan keeps calling me because he's
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trying to like find a parking spot.
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And then he found a parking spot and
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he wanted to know like when I was
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going to come out and get in the
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car or whatever.
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And I'm not picking up.
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Right.
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And so he's walking down the street and
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he's looking in every store and then he
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sees me.
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He comes in.
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He's like, hello.
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i'm like i can't talk to you right
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now and then we went out crazy story
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was the person like arrested and he's like
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why weren't you picking up and i'm like
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do you understand this woman just he goes
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who who cares i'm like she was unburdened
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for a moment in time and i got
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that information yeah and you are worried
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about the parking spot yeah
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I mean, while we're talking,
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I might get six calls from my son.
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Yesterday, and I'll just ignore them.
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Yesterday, he called me.
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Now, there is.
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It's a news story.
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There's a big crisis happening on the Ole
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Miss campus with people having laced drugs
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and things.
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It's been on the news.
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And so when he called me yesterday and
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I was recording,
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I felt the need to pick up because
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I didn't know if he knew some information
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to tell me or what.
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No,
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he wanted to know if I could send
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him a picture of a bird.
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He goes,
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can you send me a picture of a
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bird?
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I said, you know,
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there are birds in Mississippi that you
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could also take a picture of.
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Like, what are you talking about?
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He goes, yeah, my biology professor,
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when we come in next time,
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wants us to show him a picture of
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a squirrel and a bird that we took.
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I said, I'm recording.
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So I don't know what.
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Later, I was like, I don't understand.
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He goes, my biology professor is weird.
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I said,
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he probably literally wants to make sure
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you guys are paying attention.
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And put the weirdest thing out there to
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see him do it.
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Oh, I love that.
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Yeah, yeah, yeah.
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Okay, I'm going to adopt that.
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Yeah.
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I need a picture of a squirrel and
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a bird.
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I said, okay, well,
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there really aren't a lot of squirrels
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here on Bald Head Island,
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at least not by my house.
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But I've got a bird feeder because he
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knows I'm obsessed with my bird feeder
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because I'm a thousand years old.
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And he goes,
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can you take a picture of one of
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those?
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And then I'll say I took it at
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the beach.
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I was like, okay.
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Or you could just walk outside and wait
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for a bird to land to take a
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picture.
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I mean...
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But that is what he was interrupting me
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about.
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Sometimes it's what's the Hulu password.
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Oh, yeah.
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Yeah.
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And when they do that,
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then my one daughter will send fourteen
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question marks.
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Hello.
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Hello.
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Are you not?
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It's like, girl, I'm busy, man.
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I'm working.
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Yeah.
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Now,
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what if you know this is what we
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say in our house?
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I'll say, OK,
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so what if the opposite is true?
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So what if I text you and you
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don't answer?
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To them,
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because I text them and they don't answer.
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But if they text me and I don't
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answer immediately with the Hulu password
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or whatever, it's like, hello, hello,
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hello, hello, hello.
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I'm like, it's not the same.
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Okay, back to our shows.
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How are you feeling about New York?
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Okay.
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I think you could have gotten rid of
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all the ones that were on the show
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before.
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Really?
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All three?
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Yeah.
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Yeah, just start anew.
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I don't know why they kept them.
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I think that Haley makes no sense because
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we don't even know the real name of
00:20:32.403 --> 00:20:33.005
her husband.
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We're never going to see him.
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She doesn't have children.
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We don't see her parents except for like
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a Zoom call.
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We don't know who her friends are.
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Why would they cast somebody who has...
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seems to have like not a lot of
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people in her life.
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And also the small amount of them we
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will never see and never know.
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All that we know about her is she
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gets high all the time.
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She doesn't have a job.
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What's the connection though with the
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other girls though?
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That's my question.
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What's her connection with them?
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It's not even explained.
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So why is she on the show?
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Because Daisy knew Cy from before.
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I mean,
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she knew her years ago when they both
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went to scores.
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Like it's not enough.
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But at least it's something.
00:21:18.251 --> 00:21:19.772
With Hayley, I don't know.
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Why was she cast?
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She's stunt casting because of the John
00:21:24.138 --> 00:21:25.059
Gosselin thing?
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Who gives a shit about that?
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I don't.
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The classism.
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It's a trigger for me.
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the classism,
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going to Daisy's apartment and
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shit-talking her popcorn ceilings.
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I'm just like, you're an asshole.
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Why would you go to someone's house and
00:21:41.292 --> 00:21:41.932
then shit-talk?
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By the way,
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she lives in New York City.
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It's expensive.
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Most people could not live in New York
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City.
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It's super expensive.
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It appears they have a two-bedroom
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apartment,
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which is like a mansion anywhere else.
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And rent-controlled?
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She's the smart one.
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Rent-controlled?
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Never fucking leave.
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Never.
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My friend that's here with me,
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two of her kids live in New York
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City.
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And she's like,
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That's a rent-controlled apartment?
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Oh, no.
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You're never going to buy it.
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You just pay that rent.
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Because you can imagine if it's
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rent-controlled,
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it would probably be ten thousand a month
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and maybe they're paying like three.
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Yeah.
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Just something crazy.
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That's what rent-controlled means, guys.
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Like it is the rent that it was
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when it started.
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They can't ever change it.
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But a two bedroom apartment in New York
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City is ten thousand dollars a month.
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Easy, easy.
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Also,
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what does Jessel do for a living and
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what does the husband do?
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He's just like a content creator.
00:22:32.548 --> 00:22:32.708
Like,
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I don't how do they afford that lifestyle?
00:22:35.509 --> 00:22:37.570
I just feel like most of these housewives,
00:22:38.031 --> 00:22:40.492
they're just really skimming it like
00:22:40.553 --> 00:22:42.513
they're they must be in big credit card
00:22:42.555 --> 00:22:45.737
debt because the outfits and the hair and
00:22:45.757 --> 00:22:46.436
the makeup.
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I'm like,
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this is all going to catch up.
00:22:48.654 --> 00:22:53.397
So Jessel's job, remember that... Okay,
00:22:53.778 --> 00:22:54.919
she did fashion PR,
00:22:54.959 --> 00:22:57.059
but we never see her at the job.
00:22:57.800 --> 00:22:58.461
Fashion PR, okay.
00:22:58.500 --> 00:22:59.902
She probably got rid of that,
00:22:59.922 --> 00:23:01.663
and she's just doing cameos now.
00:23:03.163 --> 00:23:04.684
Just then when I typed her name,
00:23:04.785 --> 00:23:06.506
it literally comes up with some sort of
00:23:06.526 --> 00:23:07.807
serum she's promoting.
00:23:09.567 --> 00:23:11.589
But she was... Remember,
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I don't know if it was the first
00:23:12.990 --> 00:23:14.510
or second season with this new cast,
00:23:14.631 --> 00:23:15.031
that they...
00:23:15.592 --> 00:23:16.893
were impressed because they went to a
00:23:16.972 --> 00:23:19.993
party and she actually did have real known
00:23:20.054 --> 00:23:21.595
names in the fashion world were there and
00:23:21.615 --> 00:23:23.194
they're like okay actually maybe her job
00:23:23.255 --> 00:23:26.316
is legit so is that a job or
00:23:26.355 --> 00:23:27.277
you just know somebody
00:23:28.843 --> 00:23:30.423
I think maybe it was a job originally.
00:23:30.844 --> 00:23:32.184
I want to know about your life.
00:23:32.924 --> 00:23:33.984
Like who are your friends?
00:23:34.005 --> 00:23:35.026
Who are your parents?
00:23:35.086 --> 00:23:36.465
Like what do you do during the day?
00:23:36.527 --> 00:23:37.686
Like even on OC,
00:23:37.767 --> 00:23:39.867
like all we do is like we go
00:23:39.907 --> 00:23:41.087
to Heather Dubrow's,
00:23:42.009 --> 00:23:44.109
the penthouse downstairs they bought and
00:23:44.130 --> 00:23:45.009
they're going to renovate it.
00:23:45.029 --> 00:23:46.871
I'm like, I want to like,
00:23:46.931 --> 00:23:48.330
what do you do at eleven o'clock?
00:23:48.632 --> 00:23:49.551
Do you go on a run?
00:23:49.612 --> 00:23:50.731
Do you go to the gym?
00:23:50.813 --> 00:23:51.673
She makes TikToks.
00:23:51.792 --> 00:23:52.432
That's what she does.
00:23:54.054 --> 00:23:55.094
Like if that's your life,
00:23:55.114 --> 00:23:56.515
that's not enough for a TV show.
00:23:57.679 --> 00:23:59.401
That TikTok that I sent to you and
00:23:59.442 --> 00:24:03.326
Heather the other day of Gina, Emily,
00:24:03.567 --> 00:24:05.750
and Shanna Medore doing some sort of
00:24:05.789 --> 00:24:07.992
TikTok dance was the cringiest shit I have
00:24:08.032 --> 00:24:08.794
ever seen in my life.
00:24:09.494 --> 00:24:10.557
Do they make a lot of money from
00:24:10.596 --> 00:24:11.557
that?
00:24:11.617 --> 00:24:12.779
I don't know.
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:13.381
I don't know.
00:24:14.619 --> 00:24:16.060
I'm just saying this.
00:24:16.080 --> 00:24:18.362
The TV show can't be you make TikToks.
00:24:19.201 --> 00:24:19.821
What's your life?
00:24:20.221 --> 00:24:21.123
Who do you hang out with?
00:24:21.363 --> 00:24:22.242
What's your day like?
00:24:22.522 --> 00:24:23.884
Do you get up and there's a butler
00:24:23.903 --> 00:24:25.284
there, like, getting you coffee?
00:24:25.404 --> 00:24:26.545
Okay, well, who's your butler?
00:24:26.565 --> 00:24:27.565
And what's their backstory?
00:24:27.585 --> 00:24:28.405
Do you treat them well?
00:24:28.465 --> 00:24:29.905
Like, give me something.
00:24:30.046 --> 00:24:32.027
I just think the housewives is getting so
00:24:32.086 --> 00:24:33.708
boring, just like across,
00:24:33.887 --> 00:24:36.068
because it's women that they keep for way
00:24:36.108 --> 00:24:36.648
too long.
00:24:36.729 --> 00:24:38.490
And then their whole personality is that
00:24:38.750 --> 00:24:39.769
I'm a housewife.
00:24:39.910 --> 00:24:41.871
And that's not why I want to watch
00:24:41.911 --> 00:24:42.211
a show.
00:24:42.270 --> 00:24:43.071
I want to watch a show.
00:24:43.711 --> 00:24:46.554
and know, okay, this is her marriage.
00:24:46.574 --> 00:24:47.554
This is her family.
00:24:47.814 --> 00:24:49.434
This is like the complicated relationship
00:24:49.454 --> 00:24:50.955
she has with her sister and her friends.
00:24:50.996 --> 00:24:52.257
That's why she doesn't like that one
00:24:52.277 --> 00:24:53.116
because she is like,
00:24:54.699 --> 00:24:55.019
you know,
00:24:55.219 --> 00:24:57.460
been through this life experience and it
00:24:57.480 --> 00:24:58.319
just conflicts with like,
00:24:58.420 --> 00:24:59.180
give me something.
00:24:59.279 --> 00:25:01.640
I want to see teenage and college age
00:25:01.700 --> 00:25:03.500
kids because they're my favorite because
00:25:04.260 --> 00:25:05.921
they'll call bullshit on a mom.
00:25:06.060 --> 00:25:08.122
Like a toddler's not going to elementary
00:25:08.182 --> 00:25:09.142
now, middle school,
00:25:09.281 --> 00:25:10.342
they're just in their weird thing,
00:25:10.362 --> 00:25:11.582
but like a high school or college,
00:25:11.942 --> 00:25:13.942
like if it's the real housewives of
00:25:14.002 --> 00:25:15.942
podcasting and you,
00:25:16.143 --> 00:25:18.423
and people go to your house and you're
00:25:18.443 --> 00:25:18.644
like,
00:25:18.864 --> 00:25:19.663
I'm going to make some
00:25:20.084 --> 00:25:22.625
dinner for my family and then john's like
00:25:22.806 --> 00:25:25.488
mom please stop pretending that you cook
00:25:25.528 --> 00:25:26.848
like i'm not saying this is your but
00:25:26.868 --> 00:25:29.230
like yeah they'll call bullshit like you
00:25:29.250 --> 00:25:30.951
haven't cooked forever like what are you
00:25:30.971 --> 00:25:32.791
talking about yeah they're like mom you
00:25:32.833 --> 00:25:34.032
only know how to cook if it's hella
00:25:34.053 --> 00:25:36.255
fresh you know and that's like vicky's son
00:25:36.295 --> 00:25:38.316
michael like he was the best because you'd
00:25:38.355 --> 00:25:41.298
be like you're insane stop that to me
00:25:41.357 --> 00:25:42.179
is entertaining
00:25:42.974 --> 00:25:44.175
Yes, I agree.
00:25:44.236 --> 00:25:44.395
Yeah,
00:25:44.415 --> 00:25:46.077
if you came to my house and I
00:25:46.097 --> 00:25:46.878
was cooking dinner,
00:25:48.180 --> 00:25:49.661
it would just be a lot of, ew,
00:25:49.882 --> 00:25:51.202
I don't like that, or gross,
00:25:51.282 --> 00:25:52.144
can we have ketchup,
00:25:52.344 --> 00:25:53.765
or why do we have to have family
00:25:53.785 --> 00:25:54.005
dinner?
00:25:54.125 --> 00:25:54.746
It's stupid.
00:25:56.627 --> 00:25:57.828
How come dad can have his phone at
00:25:57.848 --> 00:25:58.809
the table, but we can't?
00:25:58.829 --> 00:26:00.290
It would be a lot of that.
00:26:00.310 --> 00:26:00.490
Yeah.
00:26:00.550 --> 00:26:01.833
Yeah, a lot of that.
00:26:03.393 --> 00:26:04.834
Well, I think New York is good.
00:26:04.973 --> 00:26:06.413
I think the Martha Stewart of it all
00:26:06.574 --> 00:26:07.414
is entertaining.
00:26:07.934 --> 00:26:09.174
I didn't like how they shit on her
00:26:09.214 --> 00:26:09.694
apartment.
00:26:09.734 --> 00:26:10.635
The girl that's married to the
00:26:10.675 --> 00:26:11.215
billionaire,
00:26:11.355 --> 00:26:12.976
we saw her this week with her husband
00:26:12.996 --> 00:26:14.457
and the chef in the kitchen.
00:26:14.497 --> 00:26:15.596
And I loved how the chef was like,
00:26:16.356 --> 00:26:17.758
you're going to make your own dinner.
00:26:18.117 --> 00:26:18.798
That's what I loved.
00:26:19.939 --> 00:26:21.318
And then he watched them make dinner.
00:26:23.323 --> 00:26:26.263
I have a feeling that the storyline for
00:26:26.284 --> 00:26:28.644
them is that he's cheap.
00:26:29.305 --> 00:26:32.045
They're cheap because they show them on
00:26:32.085 --> 00:26:34.526
the island and there's a clip and they're
00:26:34.566 --> 00:26:36.945
like, this is like gross.
00:26:37.586 --> 00:26:38.586
I think, yeah.
00:26:38.727 --> 00:26:40.547
Can you imagine going to someone's private
00:26:40.646 --> 00:26:41.708
island and they showed it?
00:26:41.847 --> 00:26:42.988
They showed the property.
00:26:43.167 --> 00:26:45.608
But I kind of dig that because I
00:26:45.648 --> 00:26:47.128
do think that's interesting like
00:26:47.849 --> 00:26:51.391
But, you know, for me, for example,
00:26:52.530 --> 00:26:55.392
I was raised with a stepfather who was
00:26:55.432 --> 00:26:57.731
the product of, like, the depression.
00:26:57.971 --> 00:26:58.332
Right.
00:26:58.392 --> 00:27:00.393
So he used to constantly talk to me
00:27:00.413 --> 00:27:03.173
about, like, every light has to be off.
00:27:03.413 --> 00:27:04.432
Like, what a waste of money.
00:27:04.452 --> 00:27:04.932
This is, like,
00:27:04.952 --> 00:27:06.153
you're going to have the biggest electric
00:27:06.173 --> 00:27:07.394
bill or turn the water off.
00:27:07.894 --> 00:27:09.653
So even as an older person,
00:27:09.733 --> 00:27:10.575
when my husband, like,
00:27:10.654 --> 00:27:12.315
leaves water on and walks out of her
00:27:12.375 --> 00:27:15.276
room brushing teeth, like, I'm getting,
00:27:15.316 --> 00:27:16.175
like, agita.
00:27:16.756 --> 00:27:17.536
And I...
00:27:18.463 --> 00:27:20.065
didn't grow up with any money,
00:27:20.525 --> 00:27:21.625
like if I went to the mall,
00:27:21.945 --> 00:27:22.546
I'd be like, mom,
00:27:22.586 --> 00:27:23.486
I really love that sweater.
00:27:23.567 --> 00:27:23.987
She'd be like, well,
00:27:24.007 --> 00:27:25.126
we don't have the money for it.
00:27:25.768 --> 00:27:28.429
I can't ever turn that volume down.
00:27:28.449 --> 00:27:28.788
Of course.
00:27:29.308 --> 00:27:31.470
It will never, never, never go away.
00:27:31.670 --> 00:27:33.250
So I want to know,
00:27:33.330 --> 00:27:34.511
is her husband like that?
00:27:34.592 --> 00:27:37.633
And maybe that's why he makes some of
00:27:37.653 --> 00:27:38.513
the choices he does.
00:27:40.157 --> 00:27:42.098
She said last night that she grew up
00:27:42.579 --> 00:27:45.863
well off because her father was a doctor
00:27:45.883 --> 00:27:46.443
in Waco.
00:27:46.884 --> 00:27:47.444
Yeah.
00:27:47.484 --> 00:27:49.425
But maybe the husband, like,
00:27:49.606 --> 00:27:51.008
and that to me is interesting about
00:27:51.048 --> 00:27:51.407
people.
00:27:51.488 --> 00:27:53.349
Like things that happen to you as a
00:27:53.410 --> 00:27:53.871
child,
00:27:55.011 --> 00:27:56.653
they create the foundation for your
00:27:57.013 --> 00:27:57.594
persona.
00:27:57.993 --> 00:28:00.115
And like a lot of that doesn't ever
00:28:00.176 --> 00:28:00.557
go away.
00:28:02.076 --> 00:28:03.219
Yes, I think you're right.
00:28:03.239 --> 00:28:04.320
I think that will be interesting.
00:28:04.401 --> 00:28:05.521
I'm interested in them.
00:28:05.663 --> 00:28:08.646
I'm interested in her because when we
00:28:08.666 --> 00:28:09.448
first see her, you know,
00:28:09.468 --> 00:28:12.452
she's teaching kickboxing classes or she's
00:28:12.853 --> 00:28:14.516
rented her dress or whatever and then
00:28:14.905 --> 00:28:16.106
third episode in,
00:28:16.126 --> 00:28:17.167
then we meet the husband,
00:28:17.867 --> 00:28:20.529
which I liked because he is a billionaire
00:28:20.549 --> 00:28:21.830
and they do have a chef that lives
00:28:21.871 --> 00:28:22.711
in their house.
00:28:22.730 --> 00:28:24.913
And by the way, some people would go,
00:28:25.173 --> 00:28:26.953
why is a billionaire on this television
00:28:26.973 --> 00:28:27.253
show?
00:28:28.234 --> 00:28:29.516
Because he's built rewards.
00:28:29.655 --> 00:28:31.096
And how many, like,
00:28:31.196 --> 00:28:32.758
they've advertised on podcasts.
00:28:32.778 --> 00:28:32.938
Like,
00:28:33.778 --> 00:28:36.000
I think that company is savvy if she's
00:28:36.020 --> 00:28:36.240
like,
00:28:36.861 --> 00:28:38.461
I want to have something for myself other
00:28:38.481 --> 00:28:39.742
than boxing classes.
00:28:40.123 --> 00:28:41.023
Mm-hmm.
00:28:41.203 --> 00:28:42.944
yeah he's smart to go oh yeah that
00:28:42.964 --> 00:28:44.646
would look good for the company then
00:28:44.666 --> 00:28:46.567
they're gonna like see me as the ceo
00:28:46.627 --> 00:28:48.410
and my home story and then they're gonna
00:28:48.430 --> 00:28:51.531
feel like attached to our family unit and
00:28:51.551 --> 00:28:54.734
want to like you know assuming nothing
00:28:54.755 --> 00:28:56.215
shady is going on there then yeah it'll
00:28:56.236 --> 00:28:58.577
be fine i know all that that's that
00:28:58.597 --> 00:29:00.078
that's going to be interesting to see like
00:29:00.118 --> 00:29:01.180
what's what's really going on
00:29:01.617 --> 00:29:03.058
But now we're all saying built rewards.
00:29:03.118 --> 00:29:03.719
I mean, you know,
00:29:03.818 --> 00:29:05.278
like last night when my friend and I
00:29:05.298 --> 00:29:05.920
were watching it,
00:29:06.119 --> 00:29:07.299
she hasn't watched it in years.
00:29:07.920 --> 00:29:08.601
And because she was like,
00:29:08.641 --> 00:29:09.560
tell me about it.
00:29:09.580 --> 00:29:10.741
It's interesting when you said, too,
00:29:11.162 --> 00:29:11.961
because I was like, oh,
00:29:11.981 --> 00:29:13.162
this guy does built rewards.
00:29:13.182 --> 00:29:14.403
She was like, oh, I've heard of that.
00:29:14.502 --> 00:29:15.583
And so we're talking about it.
00:29:15.884 --> 00:29:18.084
So it's got the achieved effect,
00:29:18.163 --> 00:29:19.164
but the desired effect.
00:29:19.204 --> 00:29:21.865
But when Jessel came on.
00:29:22.465 --> 00:29:23.626
She was like, okay, pause it now.
00:29:23.666 --> 00:29:24.507
Tell me what she does.
00:29:24.988 --> 00:29:26.008
And so I go, well,
00:29:26.188 --> 00:29:28.150
she used to be PR for fashion.
00:29:28.170 --> 00:29:29.450
I don't know if she still does it,
00:29:29.509 --> 00:29:29.670
but,
00:29:30.330 --> 00:29:31.652
and then I told her all about pop
00:29:31.672 --> 00:29:31.791
it.
00:29:31.852 --> 00:29:32.311
I said, he,
00:29:32.392 --> 00:29:35.314
I think was literally like in finance.
00:29:35.374 --> 00:29:38.776
He had like a regular well-earning job and
00:29:38.796 --> 00:29:41.076
he quit to become a food influencer.
00:29:41.117 --> 00:29:43.159
Cause he got a little of attention on
00:29:43.179 --> 00:29:45.680
the show for using his miles to go
00:29:45.720 --> 00:29:46.961
get a sandwich in Vietnam.
00:29:46.980 --> 00:29:48.221
Cause he had to do a round trip
00:29:48.241 --> 00:29:49.883
to get a status.
00:29:50.410 --> 00:29:50.769
And I said,
00:29:50.809 --> 00:29:52.131
so then it kind of became a thing
00:29:52.171 --> 00:29:53.211
like how stupid that was.
00:29:53.270 --> 00:29:54.951
But then he quit his job to become
00:29:54.971 --> 00:29:55.791
a food influencer.
00:29:55.811 --> 00:29:57.731
She's like, what?
00:29:58.011 --> 00:30:00.792
A person in the know told me that
00:30:01.794 --> 00:30:04.233
both Aaron and Jessel's husbands were the
00:30:04.314 --> 00:30:05.894
ones that wanted their wives on the show.
00:30:06.214 --> 00:30:08.215
Jessel never even watched the show before
00:30:08.576 --> 00:30:10.455
have it was like you got to go
00:30:10.496 --> 00:30:13.297
like I think they may even moved to
00:30:13.317 --> 00:30:14.778
New York City so she could be on
00:30:14.817 --> 00:30:17.238
the show and Aaron's husband is the
00:30:17.278 --> 00:30:21.339
attorney for Dumois and is like in those
00:30:21.380 --> 00:30:24.160
circles and he was like yeah and he
00:30:24.180 --> 00:30:25.121
was like you got to get on the
00:30:25.141 --> 00:30:25.361
show.
00:30:26.902 --> 00:30:28.442
So that's why we see them a lot
00:30:28.481 --> 00:30:30.242
probably because they're okay with it
00:30:30.282 --> 00:30:32.644
because they think it's all great.
00:30:33.285 --> 00:30:34.066
He was miked.
00:30:34.125 --> 00:30:34.965
I watched What Happens Live.
00:30:34.986 --> 00:30:35.987
He was in the audience and he was
00:30:36.047 --> 00:30:37.627
miked.
00:30:37.667 --> 00:30:38.087
Her husband.
00:30:38.228 --> 00:30:39.169
They're real into it.
00:30:39.729 --> 00:30:42.170
Her husband is the attorney for Dumas?
00:30:42.369 --> 00:30:45.632
That's what I was told, yeah.
00:30:46.012 --> 00:30:48.594
If that's true and that's what Kate has
00:30:48.634 --> 00:30:50.315
heard,
00:30:50.335 --> 00:30:52.256
that's probably pretty lucrative because
00:30:52.296 --> 00:30:53.757
Dumas probably gets sued a lot.
00:30:53.777 --> 00:30:55.438
I don't know though.
00:30:56.749 --> 00:30:57.990
I bet so.
00:30:58.069 --> 00:31:00.971
I think she's probably figured out a way
00:31:01.011 --> 00:31:02.692
to not get sued.
00:31:03.333 --> 00:31:04.534
Yeah, I don't even know who Dumas is,
00:31:04.574 --> 00:31:05.154
nor do I care.
00:31:07.115 --> 00:31:07.256
I mean,
00:31:07.276 --> 00:31:08.977
I think it came out who Dumas was,
00:31:09.017 --> 00:31:09.277
right?
00:31:10.317 --> 00:31:11.278
Yeah, probably.
00:31:11.419 --> 00:31:13.299
Yeah, it's hard to keep that undercover,
00:31:13.319 --> 00:31:14.861
but people still care about gossip.
00:31:15.761 --> 00:31:16.701
Oh, I care about gossip,
00:31:16.801 --> 00:31:18.083
but I just don't care about who it
00:31:18.222 --> 00:31:18.462
is.
00:31:18.703 --> 00:31:20.244
Oh, like who the persona is.
00:31:20.265 --> 00:31:21.464
I don't know if it's even important.
00:31:21.705 --> 00:31:21.885
Yeah.
00:31:22.990 --> 00:31:24.010
I definitely care about gossip.
00:31:24.030 --> 00:31:24.411
Are you kidding?
00:31:26.332 --> 00:31:28.252
Okay, New York City, Salt Lake.
00:31:28.313 --> 00:31:29.333
So Salt Lake,
00:31:30.394 --> 00:31:33.615
we started off with what I think was
00:31:33.655 --> 00:31:34.976
an interesting way where they did it,
00:31:35.036 --> 00:31:37.377
where they showed Mary and Cousin Joe,
00:31:37.397 --> 00:31:38.458
who I guess is now just going to
00:31:38.478 --> 00:31:40.398
be her sidekick since Robert, her husband,
00:31:40.439 --> 00:31:41.400
refuses to be on the show.
00:31:42.319 --> 00:31:43.820
But I think he's coming back on the
00:31:43.861 --> 00:31:44.121
show.
00:31:44.201 --> 00:31:45.662
And that makes me worry.
00:31:45.961 --> 00:31:46.742
Yeah, they showed a clip.
00:31:47.663 --> 00:31:49.003
And she's like, are you sure?
00:31:49.384 --> 00:31:49.664
Yes.
00:31:49.704 --> 00:31:51.006
They show it for this coming,
00:31:51.125 --> 00:31:52.326
this next episode.
00:31:52.346 --> 00:31:54.189
And she's like, thank you so much.
00:31:54.269 --> 00:31:54.528
You know,
00:31:54.628 --> 00:31:56.030
I couldn't have done this without you.
00:31:56.050 --> 00:31:57.132
You're the best partner.
00:31:57.192 --> 00:32:00.974
I'm like, what are I, you know?
00:32:01.633 --> 00:32:03.453
You and I have thought a lot about
00:32:04.335 --> 00:32:07.076
their dynamic because we interviewed the
00:32:07.176 --> 00:32:09.878
filmmakers for that doc.
00:32:10.378 --> 00:32:11.559
Yeah.
00:32:11.759 --> 00:32:15.163
I worry about the childhood that Mary had.
00:32:15.903 --> 00:32:17.785
And this man was married to her
00:32:17.805 --> 00:32:19.945
grandmother and then she ends up marrying
00:32:20.186 --> 00:32:20.527
him.
00:32:20.686 --> 00:32:20.886
Yeah.
00:32:21.446 --> 00:32:21.768
I mean,
00:32:21.867 --> 00:32:23.568
people have to really like sit on that
00:32:23.608 --> 00:32:24.349
for a second.
00:32:24.470 --> 00:32:27.811
Like she was young.
00:32:27.872 --> 00:32:28.772
Mm-hmm.
00:32:29.642 --> 00:32:31.884
But according to the other people in the
00:32:31.903 --> 00:32:34.425
documentary, she sort of pursued him.
00:32:35.105 --> 00:32:36.507
But that doesn't make sense.
00:32:36.527 --> 00:32:39.930
Do you see how twisted that is?
00:32:40.471 --> 00:32:42.231
She pursued an older man?
00:32:42.731 --> 00:32:43.032
No.
00:32:44.012 --> 00:32:45.394
Her grandmother's husband.
00:32:46.771 --> 00:32:47.912
That is so twisted.
00:32:48.653 --> 00:32:49.873
She wanted to be head of the church.
00:32:49.893 --> 00:32:51.613
It's not the fault of the man who's
00:32:51.692 --> 00:32:53.653
preying on a younger girl.
00:32:53.673 --> 00:32:54.273
You know what I mean?
00:32:55.094 --> 00:32:55.773
Right, right, right.
00:32:56.213 --> 00:33:01.816
Well, I liked the way they did it.
00:33:02.415 --> 00:33:04.155
It liked being, you know,
00:33:04.635 --> 00:33:05.977
a relative term here because we were
00:33:06.017 --> 00:33:07.057
talking about somebody who died.
00:33:08.017 --> 00:33:09.178
Liked the way they did it and that
00:33:09.337 --> 00:33:10.358
showed her hope,
00:33:11.019 --> 00:33:12.140
you know when he got out.
00:33:12.400 --> 00:33:12.819
Yeah,
00:33:12.859 --> 00:33:15.040
it's hard That was hard and then it
00:33:15.060 --> 00:33:17.722
was like two weeks later You know he
00:33:17.942 --> 00:33:18.742
he had passed,
00:33:18.942 --> 00:33:20.644
you know in his room and then people
00:33:20.683 --> 00:33:22.885
were very upset that they were filming in
00:33:22.945 --> 00:33:25.547
his room and stuff with his dog,
00:33:25.586 --> 00:33:26.147
but I think
00:33:27.248 --> 00:33:28.209
If she's like, hey,
00:33:28.328 --> 00:33:29.949
let me show you what I'm doing,
00:33:29.969 --> 00:33:30.409
go up here.
00:33:30.490 --> 00:33:30.730
I mean,
00:33:31.150 --> 00:33:32.990
what's the crew going to be like?
00:33:33.070 --> 00:33:34.651
No, we don't think that's appropriate.
00:33:35.010 --> 00:33:35.152
Well,
00:33:35.251 --> 00:33:38.772
I think you have to really respect that
00:33:38.813 --> 00:33:40.534
everybody grieves in their own way.
00:33:40.693 --> 00:33:42.615
And there are some parents that close a
00:33:42.674 --> 00:33:44.394
room off and they never want anybody to
00:33:44.434 --> 00:33:45.256
ever go into it.
00:33:45.756 --> 00:33:46.296
For Mary,
00:33:46.336 --> 00:33:48.217
maybe that made her feel close to him.
00:33:49.557 --> 00:33:52.078
And I think the crew members have been
00:33:52.118 --> 00:33:53.638
in our home so much in the last
00:33:53.659 --> 00:33:54.880
couple of years that
00:33:55.359 --> 00:33:57.660
when she says you guys are my family
00:33:57.720 --> 00:33:59.560
now she's really talking about the crew
00:33:59.601 --> 00:34:03.080
too yeah the Bravo family and you think
00:34:03.340 --> 00:34:05.602
okay you do have a husband that just
00:34:06.162 --> 00:34:08.222
that's what I was like Mary what like
00:34:08.882 --> 00:34:10.643
in that clip I'm like where has this
00:34:10.682 --> 00:34:12.143
guy been it feels like you've been doing
00:34:12.163 --> 00:34:16.123
this all on your own right yeah oh
00:34:16.143 --> 00:34:17.324
my god I want to tell you something
00:34:17.384 --> 00:34:20.983
if you ever really want to be sorry
00:34:21.023 --> 00:34:22.385
my dog is trying to get something hold
00:34:22.445 --> 00:34:24.485
one second hey stop
00:34:25.929 --> 00:34:28.512
Thank you.
00:34:28.532 --> 00:34:28.612
Okay.
00:34:28.632 --> 00:34:30.813
If you ever want to be entertained,
00:34:31.315 --> 00:34:32.376
which I know you do,
00:34:32.876 --> 00:34:34.257
our friends Dylan and Pat,
00:34:35.137 --> 00:34:36.739
their Salt Lake City recap,
00:34:37.579 --> 00:34:41.224
Patrick Hickey is so unhinged about Mary
00:34:41.244 --> 00:34:44.527
Cosby and how much he hates her and
00:34:44.567 --> 00:34:46.909
how much he thinks she's a horrible human
00:34:47.009 --> 00:34:48.050
and a horrible mother.
00:34:48.329 --> 00:34:49.150
And it is horrible.
00:34:49.670 --> 00:34:52.391
unhinged I sent him a text because I
00:34:52.411 --> 00:34:53.972
listened to the episode and I wrote him
00:34:54.012 --> 00:34:55.811
I go number one that was cousin Joe
00:34:55.851 --> 00:34:57.813
at the beginning not her husband and
00:34:57.893 --> 00:34:59.253
number two something else and he wrote
00:34:59.333 --> 00:35:01.592
back MP was I too hard on Mary
00:35:01.632 --> 00:35:03.253
Cosby tell me the truth I go you
00:35:03.313 --> 00:35:05.693
already know the answer it was terrible it
00:35:05.713 --> 00:35:07.875
was terrible what you said yeah I'm always
00:35:07.894 --> 00:35:09.114
trying to promote them because I think if
00:35:09.155 --> 00:35:10.875
people don't get you gotta you gotta yeah
00:35:10.934 --> 00:35:12.195
you gotta have a tough skin to listen
00:35:12.376 --> 00:35:16.056
you can't you can't be offended but no
00:35:16.076 --> 00:35:18.617
but holy shit their episode just scorched
00:35:18.637 --> 00:35:18.757
earth
00:35:20.474 --> 00:35:22.675
Every time Dylan tries to like bring it
00:35:22.695 --> 00:35:24.376
around, Patrick, no, no, no, no, no.
00:35:24.876 --> 00:35:27.237
Would you let a film crew... I mean,
00:35:27.277 --> 00:35:29.278
he's just... He really hates her.
00:35:29.498 --> 00:35:30.320
Really hates her.
00:35:30.380 --> 00:35:30.480
Yeah.
00:35:30.500 --> 00:35:33.300
Yeah.
00:35:33.380 --> 00:35:34.521
My dogs are just up to no good
00:35:34.561 --> 00:35:34.842
in here.
00:35:34.902 --> 00:35:36.802
And I'm sorry I told you before we
00:35:36.842 --> 00:35:37.842
started that they were going to come up
00:35:37.882 --> 00:35:38.583
here and wreak havoc.
00:35:38.623 --> 00:35:39.003
And they have.
00:35:39.023 --> 00:35:40.324
So... Yeah.
00:35:40.344 --> 00:35:41.585
I don't know.
00:35:42.005 --> 00:35:48.688
But then I don't like how...
00:35:50.353 --> 00:35:52.394
Angie had all the women over and she's
00:35:52.414 --> 00:35:53.775
like sitting there like, listen,
00:35:53.876 --> 00:35:55.677
we got to like just cut the shit
00:35:55.737 --> 00:35:57.079
and just be of support to each other.
00:35:57.119 --> 00:35:58.139
Like this really sucks.
00:35:59.081 --> 00:36:02.023
And Meredith's just sitting there like
00:36:02.164 --> 00:36:03.784
smirking cause she hates Whitney.
00:36:03.844 --> 00:36:05.045
And I was just like, this is,
00:36:05.487 --> 00:36:07.489
you're so disconnected from reality.
00:36:07.648 --> 00:36:09.210
Like you can't just like sit in this
00:36:09.269 --> 00:36:09.590
moment.
00:36:10.891 --> 00:36:12.393
I think I said it on threads.
00:36:13.213 --> 00:36:13.393
Yeah.
00:36:13.494 --> 00:36:16.235
Over arching feeling I have is like women
00:36:16.255 --> 00:36:16.356
are,
00:36:17.577 --> 00:36:18.717
we need other women.
00:36:19.418 --> 00:36:20.659
When anything happens,
00:36:20.838 --> 00:36:21.780
we need other women.
00:36:23.340 --> 00:36:25.461
Your spouse can't do it all for us.
00:36:26.621 --> 00:36:28.023
You need your women friends.
00:36:28.143 --> 00:36:29.563
Always.
00:36:29.963 --> 00:36:31.784
Just take a beat, sit together,
00:36:32.385 --> 00:36:34.346
and Meredith couldn't participate.
00:36:34.505 --> 00:36:35.987
I'm like, I don't know.
00:36:36.166 --> 00:36:37.307
She's sitting there like,
00:36:37.568 --> 00:36:38.849
is anybody going to comment on my
00:36:38.889 --> 00:36:39.369
facelifts?
00:36:39.568 --> 00:36:40.630
Look how amazing I look.
00:36:40.650 --> 00:36:41.929
I hate Whitney.
00:36:42.030 --> 00:36:42.351
I'm like,
00:36:42.411 --> 00:36:43.271
I don't want to hear about your fight
00:36:43.291 --> 00:36:44.112
with Whitney right now.
00:36:45.411 --> 00:36:47.853
You have to sometimes just sit with people
00:36:47.873 --> 00:36:48.773
that you don't really like.
00:36:48.793 --> 00:36:52.494
It's for a common good of another friend.
00:36:52.594 --> 00:36:54.396
If you can't get past something,
00:36:54.416 --> 00:36:57.036
you shouldn't be on these shows.
00:36:57.056 --> 00:36:58.077
You just can't.
00:36:58.518 --> 00:37:00.018
Why is she even mad at Whitney?
00:37:00.217 --> 00:37:00.297
Oh,
00:37:00.318 --> 00:37:02.119
because Whitney went on stage and made fun
00:37:02.139 --> 00:37:02.958
of her when she was drunk?
00:37:04.119 --> 00:37:04.820
Yeah, okay.
00:37:07.041 --> 00:37:08.402
I'm sorry, that's what you sign up for.
00:37:08.481 --> 00:37:09.601
That's the name of the game.
00:37:09.621 --> 00:37:10.302
You gotta move on.
00:37:10.342 --> 00:37:12.483
You gotta go, alright, well, that sucked,
00:37:12.563 --> 00:37:13.764
but I have to work with you.
00:37:15.186 --> 00:37:17.146
I think she's a whore, so who cares?
00:37:18.467 --> 00:37:19.347
It's like this.
00:37:19.387 --> 00:37:22.449
What if it's a company and you found
00:37:22.590 --> 00:37:25.771
out the original CEO,
00:37:25.791 --> 00:37:27.552
the founder of the company, died.
00:37:28.193 --> 00:37:30.313
And you bring the company together to talk
00:37:30.333 --> 00:37:32.295
about it and the memories and the mission
00:37:32.335 --> 00:37:33.054
of the company.
00:37:33.856 --> 00:37:35.697
And the chief marketing officer is
00:37:35.797 --> 00:37:37.777
smirking at the end of the table because
00:37:37.818 --> 00:37:39.358
they're fighting with the head of sales.
00:37:39.378 --> 00:37:39.637
Right.
00:37:40.818 --> 00:37:41.579
And you'd be like,
00:37:42.500 --> 00:37:44.219
is this really like the time to talk
00:37:44.260 --> 00:37:46.541
about your stupid shit?
00:37:46.721 --> 00:37:46.900
Yeah.
00:37:46.960 --> 00:37:47.882
That's how I felt.
00:37:48.242 --> 00:37:48.802
Okay.
00:37:48.842 --> 00:37:50.282
Good analogy, KKC.
00:37:50.322 --> 00:37:51.382
This is why you're KKC.
00:37:51.402 --> 00:37:52.083
That's really good.
00:37:52.623 --> 00:37:53.244
That's really good.
00:37:53.884 --> 00:37:56.485
And I think that it's like we've all
00:37:56.505 --> 00:37:58.106
been in these situations in life where
00:37:58.949 --> 00:38:01.150
somebody dies there's some sort of drama a
00:38:01.190 --> 00:38:03.871
tragedy with a friend who I'll give a
00:38:03.911 --> 00:38:06.231
life example you know like my husband goes
00:38:06.251 --> 00:38:07.612
to rehab well all the friends have to
00:38:07.632 --> 00:38:10.393
gather together to support me now whether
00:38:10.434 --> 00:38:12.114
these two friends over here didn't get
00:38:12.135 --> 00:38:14.135
along two weeks ago about something they
00:38:14.155 --> 00:38:15.715
don't care because they're all there for
00:38:15.737 --> 00:38:17.137
the common good to support the friend that
00:38:17.177 --> 00:38:18.657
needs them yep so
00:38:19.929 --> 00:38:21.170
I agree that I,
00:38:21.351 --> 00:38:22.411
at the end of it, Whitney's like,
00:38:22.590 --> 00:38:24.311
and we all have some healing to do
00:38:24.592 --> 00:38:25.972
from my healing journey because I'm on
00:38:26.032 --> 00:38:26.992
another healing journey.
00:38:27.313 --> 00:38:28.893
This healing journey is healing from
00:38:29.295 --> 00:38:30.054
drinking too much.
00:38:30.074 --> 00:38:31.034
I'm like, okay,
00:38:31.195 --> 00:38:32.695
every season you got a healing journey
00:38:33.255 --> 00:38:34.597
about something else.
00:38:34.836 --> 00:38:35.356
God bless.
00:38:35.777 --> 00:38:36.057
Okay.
00:38:36.297 --> 00:38:37.197
I want to see her date.
00:38:37.297 --> 00:38:38.498
I want to see her date and get
00:38:38.539 --> 00:38:39.099
Justin mad.
00:38:39.119 --> 00:38:39.900
That's what I want to say.
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:41.460
Yeah.
00:38:41.559 --> 00:38:41.699
Well,
00:38:41.780 --> 00:38:42.721
I think she doesn't want to get a
00:38:42.740 --> 00:38:44.202
divorce because it would be the second
00:38:44.242 --> 00:38:47.902
divorce and she met him like under bad
00:38:47.943 --> 00:38:48.943
circumstances, right?
00:38:48.963 --> 00:38:49.043
Yeah.
00:38:49.644 --> 00:38:52.286
Well, not bad circumstances.
00:38:52.327 --> 00:38:53.166
They were having an affair.
00:38:53.847 --> 00:38:54.128
Yeah.
00:38:54.447 --> 00:38:56.409
So I think that she's probably like, oh,
00:38:56.429 --> 00:38:57.769
this is going to look bad if I
00:38:58.150 --> 00:38:59.170
get another divorce.
00:38:59.811 --> 00:39:01.132
I think a lot of women stay together
00:39:01.172 --> 00:39:02.032
for that kind of stuff.
00:39:02.132 --> 00:39:03.112
It's like Ross on Friends.
00:39:03.132 --> 00:39:04.393
He didn't want to be divorced three times.
00:39:04.893 --> 00:39:07.096
I think my mom stayed with my stepfather
00:39:07.135 --> 00:39:09.637
who was horrible, horrible,
00:39:09.777 --> 00:39:11.358
much older man, horrible man,
00:39:11.679 --> 00:39:12.838
horrible to her children.
00:39:13.780 --> 00:39:14.619
I think she was just like,
00:39:15.081 --> 00:39:16.240
this is my fourth marriage.
00:39:16.300 --> 00:39:17.021
I got to make it work.
00:39:18.451 --> 00:39:21.431
So we're dealing with that on TLC right
00:39:21.452 --> 00:39:21.572
now.
00:39:21.612 --> 00:39:22.932
There's Patrick and Thais.
00:39:23.233 --> 00:39:26.974
And this is his second marriage.
00:39:27.635 --> 00:39:29.335
And his brother comes on and goes,
00:39:30.016 --> 00:39:31.996
fifty percent of first marriages fail.
00:39:32.177 --> 00:39:33.876
Sixty three percent of second marriages
00:39:33.896 --> 00:39:34.117
fail.
00:39:34.338 --> 00:39:36.157
Seventy five percent of third marriages
00:39:36.197 --> 00:39:36.438
fail.
00:39:36.719 --> 00:39:38.179
Why would you ever say you would be
00:39:38.239 --> 00:39:39.420
happy with getting married again?
00:39:39.460 --> 00:39:40.260
Like, what's wrong with you?
00:39:40.280 --> 00:39:40.719
Yeah.
00:39:40.780 --> 00:39:41.460
You know, great point.
00:39:41.501 --> 00:39:41.860
Great point.
00:39:41.900 --> 00:39:42.280
Great point.
00:39:42.481 --> 00:39:42.880
And he's like,
00:39:42.981 --> 00:39:43.862
I just want to be I like to
00:39:43.882 --> 00:39:45.663
be married because you like to be married,
00:39:46.083 --> 00:39:49.485
but you don't do it right.
00:39:50.226 --> 00:39:50.505
Yes.
00:39:51.947 --> 00:39:54.148
Do we both believe that Heather's
00:39:54.188 --> 00:39:56.648
boyfriend is an opportunist and gross?
00:39:57.489 --> 00:39:58.210
I don't know.
00:39:58.730 --> 00:40:00.090
I've heard a lot of people saying that
00:40:00.150 --> 00:40:02.172
on shows and I don't know.
00:40:02.853 --> 00:40:04.054
I don't know him enough yet.
00:40:04.393 --> 00:40:06.034
Just because he went on the show and
00:40:06.074 --> 00:40:07.516
just because he went on a red carpet
00:40:08.056 --> 00:40:09.496
doesn't mean he doesn't really like her,
00:40:09.717 --> 00:40:09.956
you know?
00:40:11.833 --> 00:40:14.755
I think he likes being – I think
00:40:14.795 --> 00:40:16.775
he gives me the same Jared vibes.
00:40:16.795 --> 00:40:19.576
Like it's not about the woman.
00:40:19.755 --> 00:40:22.356
It's about the opportunity to be on TV.
00:40:23.097 --> 00:40:23.737
People are like,
00:40:23.797 --> 00:40:25.536
I cannot believe that they didn't have
00:40:25.737 --> 00:40:27.097
Brittany come to this conversation.
00:40:27.117 --> 00:40:27.777
I was like,
00:40:27.797 --> 00:40:29.498
they needed it to be the core group.
00:40:29.697 --> 00:40:30.617
They didn't need Brittany.
00:40:30.679 --> 00:40:31.599
Yeah, but Mary hates Brittany.
00:40:31.938 --> 00:40:32.719
Why would –
00:40:33.018 --> 00:40:36.181
right but mary wasn't there you know still
00:40:36.922 --> 00:40:39.945
yeah no i mean god bless britney she's
00:40:39.965 --> 00:40:43.007
just sort of like um the punchline they
00:40:43.027 --> 00:40:44.628
have to keep around you know and that's
00:40:44.688 --> 00:40:45.628
i don't think they need to keep her
00:40:45.648 --> 00:40:46.889
around at all i'd get rid of her
00:40:46.909 --> 00:40:48.952
well i would too but she doesn't offer
00:40:48.992 --> 00:40:51.233
anything i guess it's funny because she's
00:40:51.454 --> 00:40:53.295
ridiculous but she's another one of those
00:40:53.315 --> 00:40:55.077
people that like has leaned into the ting
00:40:55.097 --> 00:40:56.498
ting ting and has something to say you
00:40:56.518 --> 00:40:56.617
know
00:40:56.918 --> 00:40:58.699
leaning into like her tagline of it all,
00:40:58.719 --> 00:40:59.460
like blip.
00:41:00.800 --> 00:41:02.041
I also think that they all hate,
00:41:02.161 --> 00:41:03.422
everybody hates everybody.
00:41:03.922 --> 00:41:07.306
And that's a problem on this show.
00:41:07.385 --> 00:41:08.367
Hmm.
00:41:08.407 --> 00:41:08.887
I don't think,
00:41:09.228 --> 00:41:10.969
I don't think they really have like deep,
00:41:12.195 --> 00:41:15.097
I think they're like prisoners, you know,
00:41:15.297 --> 00:41:16.257
like, Oh, we're,
00:41:16.277 --> 00:41:18.097
we all have this common bond that we,
00:41:18.277 --> 00:41:18.577
you know,
00:41:18.757 --> 00:41:20.677
had this traumatic life experience being
00:41:20.717 --> 00:41:21.597
in prison together.
00:41:21.677 --> 00:41:24.657
But after we get out of here,
00:41:24.677 --> 00:41:26.097
you're not hearing from me again.
00:41:26.599 --> 00:41:28.498
Yeah.
00:41:28.559 --> 00:41:29.559
Did you watch Miami?
00:41:29.878 --> 00:41:32.119
You feel that I feel like those women,
00:41:32.639 --> 00:41:34.059
although they can be very performative,
00:41:34.139 --> 00:41:35.519
I do think that they care about one
00:41:35.539 --> 00:41:35.820
another.
00:41:36.099 --> 00:41:36.780
I don't care.
00:41:37.320 --> 00:41:37.539
I don't,
00:41:37.820 --> 00:41:39.081
I don't think that the Salt Lake people
00:41:39.121 --> 00:41:40.201
care about each other at all.
00:41:40.804 --> 00:41:41.626
Ultimate Girls Trip,
00:41:42.106 --> 00:41:44.047
are they completely skipping Dallas like
00:41:44.068 --> 00:41:44.648
it didn't happen?
00:41:45.268 --> 00:41:45.449
Yeah.
00:41:46.030 --> 00:41:46.190
Like,
00:41:46.449 --> 00:41:47.931
there were many seasons of that show.
00:41:48.512 --> 00:41:50.034
Yeah.
00:41:50.054 --> 00:41:50.773
I mean,
00:41:50.793 --> 00:41:52.295
Miami is canceled and they had them on
00:41:52.335 --> 00:41:53.416
here, but Dallas...
00:41:53.577 --> 00:41:55.679
I think it's been too far off.
00:41:57.000 --> 00:41:58.001
I think they want to, like,
00:41:58.141 --> 00:42:00.782
clean up the plates and pretend like there
00:42:00.822 --> 00:42:01.903
wasn't a fight in the kitchen.
00:42:02.164 --> 00:42:04.065
Yeah.
00:42:04.085 --> 00:42:05.668
They're like, it's just dead,
00:42:05.788 --> 00:42:06.389
dead in the water.
00:42:07.478 --> 00:42:08.239
Well, that makes me sad.
00:42:08.681 --> 00:42:09.641
Leanne Locken.
00:42:09.802 --> 00:42:11.943
I mean, she's yeah, she's fucking nuts.
00:42:11.963 --> 00:42:12.684
That would be great.
00:42:13.826 --> 00:42:15.487
Or maybe she's too much of a maybe
00:42:15.507 --> 00:42:16.688
they're just like the whole thing with
00:42:16.728 --> 00:42:19.192
like Vicky and Shannon fighting at the
00:42:19.251 --> 00:42:19.693
first party.
00:42:19.713 --> 00:42:20.233
They were like,
00:42:20.253 --> 00:42:21.373
this is not what this show is about.
00:42:21.414 --> 00:42:22.295
So you don't get to come back.
00:42:22.936 --> 00:42:24.235
Maybe they were like they were too afraid.
00:42:24.275 --> 00:42:26.396
Leigh-Anne Locke and, you know,
00:42:26.436 --> 00:42:28.217
that crazy redheaded girl would try to
00:42:28.257 --> 00:42:28.456
hijack it.
00:42:28.896 --> 00:42:29.036
Now,
00:42:29.097 --> 00:42:31.097
the ultimate girls trip when they go to
00:42:31.137 --> 00:42:32.677
Rhode Island or they get the Rhode Island
00:42:32.717 --> 00:42:35.579
girls that come to the Berkshires.
00:42:36.719 --> 00:42:38.418
That show hadn't even aired yet.
00:42:39.019 --> 00:42:41.019
So let's see how everyone treats those
00:42:41.059 --> 00:42:41.420
women.
00:42:41.780 --> 00:42:43.701
They're probably like your pond scum.
00:42:43.820 --> 00:42:44.420
But meanwhile,
00:42:44.481 --> 00:42:45.900
that show was a big time hit.
00:42:46.586 --> 00:42:47.106
Yeah.
00:42:47.228 --> 00:42:47.987
Ooh, that's good.
00:42:48.027 --> 00:42:48.487
That's good.
00:42:48.527 --> 00:42:49.548
And that's coming up in a couple of
00:42:49.568 --> 00:42:49.889
weeks, right?
00:42:49.909 --> 00:42:50.650
We've got to be almost done.
00:42:50.670 --> 00:42:51.690
They're going to be like, who are you?
00:42:51.710 --> 00:42:52.510
Who are you people?
00:42:52.570 --> 00:42:53.291
Like, what's your name?
00:42:53.572 --> 00:42:55.393
Like, you don't matter.
00:42:55.413 --> 00:42:56.193
Do you work here?
00:42:56.514 --> 00:42:57.155
Bring me a drink.
00:42:57.295 --> 00:42:57.454
Yeah.
00:42:58.235 --> 00:42:58.775
Bring me a drink.
00:42:58.795 --> 00:43:00.896
But it's like their show is way better
00:43:00.936 --> 00:43:02.077
than a lot of the other franchises.
00:43:02.117 --> 00:43:03.219
Yeah, it is.
00:43:04.400 --> 00:43:04.719
Okay.
00:43:05.000 --> 00:43:07.581
Did you watch the first two episodes of
00:43:07.601 --> 00:43:08.603
The Traitors?
00:43:08.943 --> 00:43:09.242
I did.
00:43:09.664 --> 00:43:09.864
Yeah.
00:43:09.923 --> 00:43:10.684
I liked it.
00:43:10.704 --> 00:43:11.445
With the normies?
00:43:11.545 --> 00:43:11.985
I loved it.
00:43:12.365 --> 00:43:13.967
Today on my show, I have Madeline.
00:43:15.164 --> 00:43:15.985
Okay, which one is she?
00:43:16.347 --> 00:43:17.829
She was the one who got kicked off.
00:43:19.112 --> 00:43:20.733
Christy said that she had said,
00:43:20.753 --> 00:43:22.898
I don't know,
00:43:22.998 --> 00:43:25.943
I feel bad about kicking off Kim.
00:43:25.983 --> 00:43:26.222
Kim.
00:43:26.242 --> 00:43:26.304
Kim.
00:43:27.338 --> 00:43:27.858
Not Kim.
00:43:28.378 --> 00:43:28.639
Okay.
00:43:29.159 --> 00:43:30.780
Madeline is the girl who's the
00:43:31.059 --> 00:43:32.400
construction manager.
00:43:32.960 --> 00:43:34.442
Oh, so pretty.
00:43:34.722 --> 00:43:35.342
Yeah, pretty girl.
00:43:35.382 --> 00:43:36.663
She's on my show today.
00:43:36.902 --> 00:43:37.704
Okay.
00:43:38.003 --> 00:43:39.045
I loved looking at her.
00:43:39.445 --> 00:43:40.646
And when I love to look at somebody,
00:43:40.706 --> 00:43:41.865
I get sad when I don't have them
00:43:41.885 --> 00:43:42.527
on my team anymore.
00:43:42.586 --> 00:43:43.407
You know what she did say?
00:43:43.427 --> 00:43:44.648
She's very interesting.
00:43:44.987 --> 00:43:45.847
I was like, hmm.
00:43:46.369 --> 00:43:47.889
She talks about the sexism.
00:43:47.909 --> 00:43:49.550
And I was like, hmm, you're right.
00:43:51.532 --> 00:43:53.253
By the way, she's six feet tall.
00:43:53.313 --> 00:43:53.913
Wow.
00:43:53.932 --> 00:43:54.793
I don't know.
00:43:54.994 --> 00:43:55.193
Yeah.
00:43:55.213 --> 00:43:56.153
She said, I, I have a,
00:43:56.434 --> 00:43:58.016
definitely a commanding presence and I've
00:43:58.036 --> 00:44:01.577
been working around dudes and I am very
00:44:01.918 --> 00:44:03.778
like strong in my convictions and that can
00:44:03.818 --> 00:44:07.621
be like a lot for people.
00:44:07.661 --> 00:44:08.222
But she was like,
00:44:08.521 --> 00:44:09.702
why am I taking all the heat?
00:44:09.722 --> 00:44:11.264
But like Victor's like scot-free.
00:44:12.164 --> 00:44:13.505
Because he was sitting right there too.
00:44:14.405 --> 00:44:14.585
Yeah.
00:44:14.666 --> 00:44:16.286
And he was like, she got, Oh,
00:44:16.306 --> 00:44:17.608
she said when they went around the round
00:44:17.648 --> 00:44:19.108
table, it was like Madeline, Madeline,
00:44:19.148 --> 00:44:19.548
Madeline.
00:44:19.608 --> 00:44:21.110
It wasn't like very few people said
00:44:21.130 --> 00:44:21.409
Victor.
00:44:22.068 --> 00:44:23.188
But he should have said,
00:44:23.489 --> 00:44:24.731
I did not hear her say that.
00:44:24.871 --> 00:44:26.092
I think she did not say that.
00:44:26.172 --> 00:44:28.313
He should have been more convincing.
00:44:28.614 --> 00:44:29.835
But once he could see the writing on
00:44:29.876 --> 00:44:30.315
the wall,
00:44:30.335 --> 00:44:32.137
everybody's just there to save themselves.
00:44:32.217 --> 00:44:33.699
Yeah, yeah.
00:44:34.179 --> 00:44:34.260
Oh,
00:44:34.300 --> 00:44:36.882
she also said they like played it up
00:44:36.902 --> 00:44:38.244
that there was some sort of showman.
00:44:38.264 --> 00:44:38.625
She was like,
00:44:38.704 --> 00:44:40.025
maybe I flirted a little bit.
00:44:40.045 --> 00:44:41.748
But she said I was actually much closer
00:44:41.788 --> 00:44:42.869
to a bunch of other people.
00:44:43.409 --> 00:44:44.831
But also it's like day two.
00:44:45.532 --> 00:44:47.114
So what are you?
00:44:47.135 --> 00:44:48.936
Well, she said I got it.
00:44:48.956 --> 00:44:49.157
I did.
00:44:49.398 --> 00:44:51.780
I my alliance was the people that I
00:44:51.900 --> 00:44:52.802
rode in the car with.
00:44:52.902 --> 00:44:53.302
And I said,
00:44:53.402 --> 00:44:54.364
is that really a good idea?
00:44:56.123 --> 00:44:57.164
But I mean, when you don't know,
00:44:57.545 --> 00:44:59.067
you literally don't know these people.
00:44:59.387 --> 00:45:00.228
So if you at least with you go
00:45:00.248 --> 00:45:01.168
with the celebrities,
00:45:01.409 --> 00:45:03.090
you may not know everybody, but you know,
00:45:03.170 --> 00:45:04.471
that person was on Survivor.
00:45:04.731 --> 00:45:06.132
So you could go with what they're or
00:45:06.293 --> 00:45:08.054
I saw that person on Housewives.
00:45:08.094 --> 00:45:08.894
I love that show.
00:45:09.496 --> 00:45:13.199
At least you got a sense of somebody.
00:45:13.518 --> 00:45:14.659
It may not be all twenty people,
00:45:14.679 --> 00:45:16.541
but you may know of two people or
00:45:16.601 --> 00:45:17.902
somebody may tell you they were on Big
00:45:17.922 --> 00:45:18.744
Brother, da, da, da, da.
00:45:19.224 --> 00:45:21.945
But here it is literally just people from
00:45:22.025 --> 00:45:22.766
far and wide.
00:45:22.865 --> 00:45:23.907
We've got a funeral director.
00:45:23.927 --> 00:45:26.188
We've got a basketball coach that's really
00:45:26.208 --> 00:45:26.628
a lawyer.
00:45:28.909 --> 00:45:30.809
I really thought I wasn't going to like
00:45:30.929 --> 00:45:31.690
it.
00:45:31.971 --> 00:45:32.771
Now I'm obsessed.
00:45:32.811 --> 00:45:33.972
Oh, I actually – yeah, no,
00:45:34.032 --> 00:45:34.532
I like it.
00:45:35.253 --> 00:45:36.032
By the way, Kim,
00:45:36.132 --> 00:45:37.974
dum-dum for coming up with the college
00:45:37.994 --> 00:45:38.873
basketball idea.
00:45:38.893 --> 00:45:40.315
Why did she say that?
00:45:40.375 --> 00:45:40.655
Why?
00:45:41.275 --> 00:45:42.576
We were like, why did she say that?
00:45:42.856 --> 00:45:43.657
Because –
00:45:45.257 --> 00:45:45.757
Oh, bless you.
00:45:46.338 --> 00:45:47.619
She thought, well,
00:45:47.699 --> 00:45:48.820
if I say I'm a lawyer,
00:45:49.121 --> 00:45:49.822
they're going to be like,
00:45:49.862 --> 00:45:50.503
get rid of her.
00:45:50.563 --> 00:45:51.563
She's too analytical.
00:45:51.643 --> 00:45:53.606
But then you said your basketball coach
00:45:53.646 --> 00:45:54.646
there and then they're going to go.
00:45:54.666 --> 00:45:56.449
She's going to get everybody convince
00:45:56.489 --> 00:45:58.871
everybody to follow like her direction,
00:45:59.050 --> 00:46:00.092
like get rid of this person.
00:46:00.693 --> 00:46:02.353
So it actually did her in in the
00:46:02.414 --> 00:46:02.554
end.
00:46:03.554 --> 00:46:04.155
I found that.
00:46:04.615 --> 00:46:06.436
So my friend Emily was watching with me.
00:46:06.456 --> 00:46:08.277
She's never watched one episode of traders
00:46:08.438 --> 00:46:08.717
ever.
00:46:09.117 --> 00:46:09.998
So I was like, well, I want to,
00:46:10.119 --> 00:46:11.358
I need to watch this for my show.
00:46:11.518 --> 00:46:12.420
And I think you'll like,
00:46:12.500 --> 00:46:13.561
I'm not going to force her to watch
00:46:13.621 --> 00:46:14.940
like love after lockup.
00:46:15.021 --> 00:46:15.501
I'm for, you know,
00:46:15.521 --> 00:46:16.802
I'm going to make her watch something
00:46:16.822 --> 00:46:17.041
good.
00:46:17.663 --> 00:46:18.782
And we watched the two episodes.
00:46:18.802 --> 00:46:19.463
She's like, Oh my gosh,
00:46:19.503 --> 00:46:20.304
when does the next one come out?
00:46:20.324 --> 00:46:21.023
She's so into it.
00:46:21.204 --> 00:46:22.304
And I was trying to explain to her
00:46:22.465 --> 00:46:23.885
that a lot of times it's celebrities
00:46:24.106 --> 00:46:25.967
because she does know survivor people and
00:46:25.987 --> 00:46:26.306
stuff.
00:46:26.927 --> 00:46:27.327
And so I was like,
00:46:27.367 --> 00:46:29.168
you will like that one too.
00:46:29.528 --> 00:46:29.768
But,
00:46:30.460 --> 00:46:32.280
I think this is probably a good entry
00:46:32.481 --> 00:46:34.061
because everybody's on equal field where
00:46:34.081 --> 00:46:35.262
we don't know anybody.
00:46:35.681 --> 00:46:36.942
So when we first start to watch it
00:46:37.021 --> 00:46:38.862
and the girl underneath her chyron says
00:46:38.922 --> 00:46:39.802
lawyer, and she says,
00:46:39.842 --> 00:46:40.802
I'm a basketball coach.
00:46:41.282 --> 00:46:42.842
Emily goes, Oh, that's what they do.
00:46:42.882 --> 00:46:43.483
They lie.
00:46:43.603 --> 00:46:44.603
I go, no,
00:46:45.063 --> 00:46:46.623
I have never seen one person do that
00:46:46.724 --> 00:46:46.983
ever.
00:46:47.324 --> 00:46:48.103
That is weird.
00:46:48.903 --> 00:46:50.284
I go, I wonder why she did that.
00:46:50.324 --> 00:46:50.625
And I go,
00:46:50.664 --> 00:46:52.344
maybe they got her chyron wrong,
00:46:52.864 --> 00:46:54.144
but I can't imagine Peacock.
00:46:54.585 --> 00:46:56.826
Like I myself was trying to figure out,
00:46:57.606 --> 00:46:59.208
I didn't understand that at all.
00:46:59.487 --> 00:47:02.369
I can't wait to find out for her
00:47:02.389 --> 00:47:03.590
to come and do interviews and stuff and
00:47:03.610 --> 00:47:04.112
explain it.
00:47:04.132 --> 00:47:06.014
Maybe she'll come on your show and explain
00:47:06.034 --> 00:47:06.074
it.
00:47:06.094 --> 00:47:07.355
She was going to come on my show
00:47:07.434 --> 00:47:09.317
and then it didn't work out on Friday.
00:47:09.336 --> 00:47:11.498
That's okay.
00:47:11.539 --> 00:47:12.518
What was the strategy?
00:47:13.079 --> 00:47:14.001
That's what I need to know.
00:47:14.561 --> 00:47:15.422
Yeah.
00:47:15.461 --> 00:47:15.621
Well,
00:47:15.641 --> 00:47:17.222
I'm sorry about that Madeline girl because
00:47:17.262 --> 00:47:19.423
she's I found her to be like supermodel
00:47:19.463 --> 00:47:21.525
gorgeous and to be a construction manager.
00:47:21.545 --> 00:47:22.786
I was like, she's interesting.
00:47:23.045 --> 00:47:23.606
Yeah.
00:47:23.646 --> 00:47:26.487
She said she's loving being on the show
00:47:26.527 --> 00:47:29.547
and and, you know, getting interviewed.
00:47:29.568 --> 00:47:30.248
Yeah.
00:47:30.268 --> 00:47:32.128
She said it's so fun because her job
00:47:32.190 --> 00:47:33.250
is just so different.
00:47:33.840 --> 00:47:34.219
Yeah.
00:47:34.340 --> 00:47:34.900
Okay, good.
00:47:35.240 --> 00:47:35.320
Yeah.
00:47:35.342 --> 00:47:35.561
All right.
00:47:36.302 --> 00:47:38.844
And a story that I mean,
00:47:39.164 --> 00:47:41.047
a show that I saw being advertised.
00:47:41.067 --> 00:47:41.527
And then of course,
00:47:41.547 --> 00:47:43.429
you were talking about it.
00:47:43.548 --> 00:47:45.851
A killer story on HBO Max.
00:47:46.436 --> 00:47:46.657
Yes.
00:47:47.018 --> 00:47:47.197
Okay.
00:47:47.237 --> 00:47:48.338
Who did you interview from that?
00:47:48.358 --> 00:47:51.920
The producer and the director.
00:47:51.981 --> 00:47:52.222
Okay.
00:47:52.461 --> 00:47:52.942
So you didn't,
00:47:52.961 --> 00:47:53.842
I have not listened to it,
00:47:53.862 --> 00:47:55.523
but you didn't interview Joe,
00:47:55.583 --> 00:47:56.465
the New York Times.
00:47:56.905 --> 00:47:58.226
No, he had been out of town.
00:47:58.507 --> 00:47:59.608
So I just got the director and the
00:47:59.648 --> 00:48:00.128
producer.
00:48:00.588 --> 00:48:01.228
Is his name Joe?
00:48:01.268 --> 00:48:01.829
Did I get that right?
00:48:01.849 --> 00:48:02.510
Joe Sexton.
00:48:02.610 --> 00:48:02.789
Yeah.
00:48:02.829 --> 00:48:03.490
Yeah.
00:48:03.550 --> 00:48:03.751
Okay.
00:48:03.791 --> 00:48:04.391
First of all,
00:48:04.630 --> 00:48:05.972
so I made Emily watch that as well.
00:48:06.213 --> 00:48:06.572
She's here.
00:48:06.592 --> 00:48:07.853
I was like, we're watching TV.
00:48:07.914 --> 00:48:08.934
Like you have no choice.
00:48:08.954 --> 00:48:09.434
You're with me.
00:48:10.016 --> 00:48:10.476
So I was like,
00:48:10.635 --> 00:48:12.297
I want to watch this literally just for
00:48:12.338 --> 00:48:12.637
fun.
00:48:13.018 --> 00:48:14.878
Because I think when I,
00:48:14.898 --> 00:48:16.199
I don't have to take notes, you know?
00:48:16.639 --> 00:48:16.719
Yeah.
00:48:16.739 --> 00:48:18.240
So she was like, oh, okay.
00:48:18.541 --> 00:48:19.721
She's like, you know, I love Dateline.
00:48:19.740 --> 00:48:20.302
I was like, okay.
00:48:20.342 --> 00:48:20.842
Oh, perfect.
00:48:20.862 --> 00:48:21.742
You'll love this.
00:48:22.222 --> 00:48:24.284
So this is right up Kate's alley, guys,
00:48:24.324 --> 00:48:24.744
by the way.
00:48:24.824 --> 00:48:26.445
She loves to find things for people to
00:48:26.465 --> 00:48:26.864
watch.
00:48:27.784 --> 00:48:28.746
That's her jam.
00:48:28.885 --> 00:48:30.766
So you're like peeing your pants that I
00:48:30.786 --> 00:48:31.927
have somebody here that doesn't watch a
00:48:31.967 --> 00:48:32.547
lot of television.
00:48:32.568 --> 00:48:33.007
I love it.
00:48:33.288 --> 00:48:33.947
Yeah.
00:48:33.967 --> 00:48:34.887
And I've already done so far.
00:48:34.907 --> 00:48:35.668
I'm like two out of two.
00:48:35.708 --> 00:48:36.429
I've hit it out of the park.
00:48:36.449 --> 00:48:37.349
Three out of three because I made her
00:48:37.369 --> 00:48:38.228
watch some Housewives stuff.
00:48:39.309 --> 00:48:42.570
So this killer story, it's on HBO Max.
00:48:42.829 --> 00:48:44.389
And I'd heard this story before.
00:48:44.710 --> 00:48:46.210
I've heard it was an episode of Forty
00:48:46.251 --> 00:48:46.811
Eight Hours.
00:48:47.451 --> 00:48:48.650
That's Dana, whatever.
00:48:48.931 --> 00:48:49.512
Or I've heard it.
00:48:49.572 --> 00:48:50.652
I've heard it on a podcast.
00:48:51.172 --> 00:48:52.331
This is Dana Chandler.
00:48:52.492 --> 00:48:53.231
Dana Chandler.
00:48:53.291 --> 00:48:54.193
I've heard that name before.
00:48:54.313 --> 00:48:55.753
And I've seen her picture a million times.
00:48:56.112 --> 00:48:57.715
Because depending on how they shoot it,
00:48:58.315 --> 00:49:00.077
she looks like the sweetest little lady in
00:49:00.097 --> 00:49:00.458
the world.
00:49:00.657 --> 00:49:02.199
Or she looks like she would fucking cut
00:49:02.219 --> 00:49:02.659
your throat.
00:49:03.039 --> 00:49:03.400
Totally.
00:49:03.800 --> 00:49:04.061
Yeah.
00:49:04.201 --> 00:49:05.623
Well, then somebody wrote,
00:49:07.023 --> 00:49:10.286
like a relative wrote on my post.
00:49:10.748 --> 00:49:10.867
Oh.
00:49:12.088 --> 00:49:12.730
And she said,
00:49:12.769 --> 00:49:14.110
because I put it like an Instagram
00:49:14.150 --> 00:49:14.951
carousel about it.
00:49:15.070 --> 00:49:18.052
And they said things that were not in
00:49:18.253 --> 00:49:19.954
the doc, which I was like, well,
00:49:19.994 --> 00:49:21.255
I'd love to have known that,
00:49:21.875 --> 00:49:24.677
that Dana was so obsessed with her ex.
00:49:25.137 --> 00:49:27.039
She would like stalk him,
00:49:27.358 --> 00:49:29.599
call him and try to rope in other
00:49:29.639 --> 00:49:31.802
people to like get info on him.
00:49:32.501 --> 00:49:33.722
And something about like putting a
00:49:33.804 --> 00:49:36.025
cigarette out on like somebody like she
00:49:36.306 --> 00:49:37.947
she was like she was unstable,
00:49:38.027 --> 00:49:39.268
like totally obsessed.
00:49:39.849 --> 00:49:41.971
So I think maybe she like hired someone
00:49:41.990 --> 00:49:42.431
to kill them.
00:49:43.273 --> 00:49:45.934
Well, she was, you know,
00:49:45.954 --> 00:49:47.414
an alcoholic and got sober,
00:49:48.016 --> 00:49:49.715
but she lost full custody of her kids
00:49:49.896 --> 00:49:51.757
and got sober and went back to college.
00:49:51.836 --> 00:49:53.797
And so that part of the story is
00:49:54.557 --> 00:49:56.617
very compelling to me.
00:49:57.119 --> 00:49:58.478
But then on the second episode,
00:49:58.498 --> 00:50:00.219
when they're showing the two different
00:50:00.260 --> 00:50:03.661
stories that she told about her alibi and
00:50:03.681 --> 00:50:04.661
they draw it out,
00:50:04.701 --> 00:50:07.601
like the short route and then the big
00:50:08.503 --> 00:50:10.766
route and it's good for people that aren't
00:50:10.786 --> 00:50:13.148
from Colorado to understand to show it on
00:50:13.168 --> 00:50:15.268
the screen of like oh okay so one
00:50:15.409 --> 00:50:16.489
is like a three hour day and the
00:50:16.570 --> 00:50:18.771
other was like a twelve hour day so
00:50:18.851 --> 00:50:20.952
which one did she do so I haven't
00:50:20.992 --> 00:50:22.333
watched the third episode obviously it's
00:50:22.393 --> 00:50:24.996
not out yet it'll come out Thursday night
00:50:25.016 --> 00:50:26.478
so I don't know and because if I
00:50:26.538 --> 00:50:27.918
have heard the story because I've heard so
00:50:27.938 --> 00:50:29.780
many stories I've forgotten what actually
00:50:29.820 --> 00:50:31.501
happens well that's so fun too when you
00:50:31.521 --> 00:50:33.643
forget and then you're like oh okay good
00:50:33.663 --> 00:50:34.864
so we have to watch it Thursday night
00:50:34.983 --> 00:50:36.164
as well but I
00:50:36.786 --> 00:50:38.666
What I find so interesting is the couple
00:50:38.706 --> 00:50:40.427
that he calls pen pal and trash man.
00:50:40.447 --> 00:50:41.668
Yeah.
00:50:41.708 --> 00:50:43.130
The whole time, every time he goes,
00:50:43.210 --> 00:50:44.771
and then pen pal said, dah, dah, dah,
00:50:44.791 --> 00:50:44.951
dah.
00:50:45.010 --> 00:50:47.032
And then I told trash man and we
00:50:47.072 --> 00:50:50.094
were just laughing so hard at Joe Sexton,
00:50:50.293 --> 00:50:52.655
his character as a New York times, just,
00:50:53.034 --> 00:50:54.735
and he always has the fake cigarette in
00:50:54.755 --> 00:50:55.135
his mouth.
00:50:55.155 --> 00:50:55.936
Yeah.
00:50:56.476 --> 00:50:59.159
Emily goes, is that going to be explained?
00:50:59.539 --> 00:51:01.661
We talk about so much of that stuff.
00:51:01.681 --> 00:51:04.003
And then we talk about the opening shot
00:51:04.043 --> 00:51:06.806
where he's driving down the road and the
00:51:06.827 --> 00:51:07.166
truck.
00:51:07.286 --> 00:51:07.626
I said,
00:51:07.788 --> 00:51:09.369
you guys need an Emmy just for that
00:51:09.409 --> 00:51:09.789
shot.
00:51:09.909 --> 00:51:11.630
And then they were telling me who was
00:51:11.690 --> 00:51:12.992
responsible for it.
00:51:13.052 --> 00:51:14.313
Like it's the making of it.
00:51:14.653 --> 00:51:15.894
I go into a lot of that stuff.
00:51:16.155 --> 00:51:16.494
Okay, good.
00:51:16.534 --> 00:51:17.916
That was maybe last week.
00:51:17.976 --> 00:51:19.697
I think your episode was last week.
00:51:19.777 --> 00:51:20.878
And then I would love for you to
00:51:20.918 --> 00:51:23.320
listen to my last Saturday series episode
00:51:23.340 --> 00:51:25.402
because I had the guy Michael Swerdlick
00:51:25.442 --> 00:51:27.623
who wrote the movie Can't Buy Me Love.
00:51:28.284 --> 00:51:28.664
Okay.
00:51:29.025 --> 00:51:31.005
And he has all these like really fun
00:51:31.045 --> 00:51:32.126
details about the movie.
00:51:32.900 --> 00:51:33.041
See,
00:51:33.061 --> 00:51:35.041
that's more of your generation because
00:51:35.061 --> 00:51:36.182
you're like my two co-hosts.
00:51:36.222 --> 00:51:38.324
You're maybe a little ten years or so
00:51:38.364 --> 00:51:38.983
younger than me.
00:51:39.463 --> 00:51:41.224
I was like more in college when that
00:51:41.264 --> 00:51:42.344
movie came out, I think,
00:51:42.806 --> 00:51:44.045
whereas like your generation,
00:51:44.126 --> 00:51:45.266
it was like that was like your high
00:51:45.286 --> 00:51:47.447
school movie, you know?
00:51:47.467 --> 00:51:48.608
I think I was younger than that,
00:51:48.668 --> 00:51:49.929
but I feel like.
00:51:51.460 --> 00:51:53.161
It is just like one of the best
00:51:53.302 --> 00:51:55.525
rom-com movies in the history of time.
00:51:55.545 --> 00:51:56.427
Okay.
00:51:56.447 --> 00:51:56.567
Yeah.
00:51:56.586 --> 00:51:57.648
I mean, listen, believe me,
00:51:57.668 --> 00:51:58.548
I know the premise of it.
00:51:58.628 --> 00:51:59.690
I saw it when it came out,
00:51:59.731 --> 00:52:01.672
but I haven't like seen it a hundred
00:52:01.693 --> 00:52:01.853
times.
00:52:02.173 --> 00:52:03.996
My generation watches over and over like
00:52:04.016 --> 00:52:04.856
Sixteen Candles.
00:52:04.938 --> 00:52:05.398
Yeah.
00:52:05.418 --> 00:52:08.222
Do you remember Rico Suave?
00:52:08.242 --> 00:52:08.362
Yeah.
00:52:10.481 --> 00:52:11.202
Of course.
00:52:11.262 --> 00:52:11.342
Okay.
00:52:11.442 --> 00:52:12.762
So Gerardo's in that movie.
00:52:12.862 --> 00:52:14.862
And Michael was telling me about how he
00:52:14.902 --> 00:52:16.603
was cast for the show because they needed
00:52:16.643 --> 00:52:19.885
somebody who they wanted to get like
00:52:19.985 --> 00:52:20.565
locals.
00:52:20.804 --> 00:52:21.864
It was filmed in Tucson.
00:52:22.324 --> 00:52:24.206
And then a year after the movie's made,
00:52:24.286 --> 00:52:24.786
he comes to him.
00:52:24.806 --> 00:52:27.027
He's like, I got this persona, Rico Suave.
00:52:27.067 --> 00:52:27.967
And he comes to his house,
00:52:28.027 --> 00:52:29.907
like cardboard to do a backspin and like
00:52:29.947 --> 00:52:31.288
play the music with the bandana.
00:52:31.867 --> 00:52:32.268
And he was like,
00:52:32.288 --> 00:52:33.007
I want you to rep me.
00:52:33.027 --> 00:52:33.608
And Michael's like,
00:52:33.708 --> 00:52:35.829
I don't really rep like singers.
00:52:35.929 --> 00:52:37.489
But then he went on and it became
00:52:37.528 --> 00:52:39.449
like the number one song in America.
00:52:39.550 --> 00:52:39.690
Yeah.
00:52:40.409 --> 00:52:41.250
Gerardo wrote me.
00:52:41.989 --> 00:52:42.769
I'm going to interview him.
00:52:43.391 --> 00:52:44.210
No way, Kate.
00:52:44.911 --> 00:52:46.170
Rico Suave.
00:52:46.210 --> 00:52:47.891
Yeah, he's coming on my show.
00:52:47.990 --> 00:52:49.572
Let me tell you this about Rico Suave.
00:52:49.731 --> 00:52:51.032
On TLC, there's a couple,
00:52:51.172 --> 00:52:52.211
Ashley and Manuel,
00:52:52.992 --> 00:52:55.492
and they recently posted they're getting
00:52:55.512 --> 00:52:55.932
divorced.
00:52:56.092 --> 00:52:57.112
So in our minds, they're like,
00:52:57.132 --> 00:52:57.932
they're not getting divorced.
00:52:57.952 --> 00:52:59.693
They just want to go on last resort
00:53:01.393 --> 00:53:02.213
or happily ever after.
00:53:02.293 --> 00:53:04.454
Whenever the TLC couples post something,
00:53:04.474 --> 00:53:04.835
we're like, oh,
00:53:04.855 --> 00:53:05.835
they're trying to get on
00:53:06.394 --> 00:53:07.675
one of these spinoffs, you know,
00:53:08.096 --> 00:53:09.496
that's for divorced people or whatever,
00:53:09.777 --> 00:53:10.657
single people, whatever.
00:53:11.097 --> 00:53:13.579
Anyway, her dog's name is Rico Suave.
00:53:13.619 --> 00:53:16.561
And yeah, every time she'd be like,
00:53:16.960 --> 00:53:17.702
and I was like,
00:53:17.842 --> 00:53:19.762
Rico Suave sleeps in the bed with us.
00:53:19.963 --> 00:53:21.543
And my, you know,
00:53:21.603 --> 00:53:23.005
husband came from wherever,
00:53:23.184 --> 00:53:23.204
a
00:53:24.221 --> 00:53:25.121
South American country.
00:53:25.222 --> 00:53:26.603
And he does not believe the dog should
00:53:26.643 --> 00:53:27.123
be in the house.
00:53:27.143 --> 00:53:27.463
But I said,
00:53:27.822 --> 00:53:29.103
Rico Suave is my first love.
00:53:29.364 --> 00:53:30.945
And she constantly calls him like his full
00:53:30.985 --> 00:53:32.065
government name, Rico Suave.
00:53:32.746 --> 00:53:35.748
And it's funny every time she says it,
00:53:35.768 --> 00:53:39.530
because I'm like, oh, Rico Suave.
00:53:39.851 --> 00:53:40.811
Every time she says it,
00:53:40.831 --> 00:53:41.492
it comes to my mind.
00:53:41.913 --> 00:53:43.494
The video and the ads.
00:53:43.514 --> 00:53:43.653
Oh, yeah.
00:53:44.034 --> 00:53:44.235
Yeah.
00:53:45.114 --> 00:53:47.596
cute okay is he still cute i'm sure
00:53:47.635 --> 00:53:51.335
gorgeous gorgeous and has like really cute
00:53:51.356 --> 00:53:53.317
kids and they are in on the joke
00:53:53.376 --> 00:53:55.376
and make videos about him and are you
00:53:55.396 --> 00:53:57.557
gonna have him on your saturday series yes
00:53:57.918 --> 00:54:00.277
that's great kate is that great that is
00:54:00.338 --> 00:54:02.099
great now you guys if you don't know
00:54:02.139 --> 00:54:04.818
because you live under a rock kate um
00:54:04.878 --> 00:54:06.239
has a podcast where she interviews
00:54:06.278 --> 00:54:08.280
documentary filmmakers and people like um
00:54:08.320 --> 00:54:08.739
gerardo
00:54:09.780 --> 00:54:10.420
People like me,
00:54:10.500 --> 00:54:11.641
I was on the Saturday series,
00:54:12.240 --> 00:54:15.041
but she it's whatever you see on your
00:54:15.061 --> 00:54:15.262
TV.
00:54:15.302 --> 00:54:16.141
You're like, Oh my God,
00:54:16.181 --> 00:54:17.322
this is looks fascinating.
00:54:17.362 --> 00:54:18.882
Like the Nathan Fielder thing coming up
00:54:18.902 --> 00:54:19.782
with Elizabeth Holmes.
00:54:20.523 --> 00:54:21.003
Yes.
00:54:21.302 --> 00:54:23.043
Kate's going to be all over that.
00:54:23.164 --> 00:54:24.664
All over it.
00:54:25.284 --> 00:54:26.784
So anything like that you're interested
00:54:26.824 --> 00:54:26.885
in,
00:54:26.925 --> 00:54:29.445
but Kate also has a sub stack newsletter
00:54:29.465 --> 00:54:30.425
that comes to your mailbox.
00:54:30.525 --> 00:54:32.085
She also does a podcast about it and
00:54:32.106 --> 00:54:33.206
it's posted on her Instagram.
00:54:33.427 --> 00:54:34.007
What to watch.
00:54:34.387 --> 00:54:37.608
This is the, the list, the list.
00:54:37.987 --> 00:54:38.108
I love,
00:54:38.427 --> 00:54:39.086
consult it.
00:54:39.166 --> 00:54:40.467
And not only do I consult it,
00:54:40.847 --> 00:54:42.889
but I will then text Kate something like
00:54:42.949 --> 00:54:44.431
my, my friend Emily is here.
00:54:44.451 --> 00:54:45.630
What should we watch?
00:54:45.710 --> 00:54:46.771
And Kate will be like, okay,
00:54:46.811 --> 00:54:47.612
tell me what she likes.
00:54:47.652 --> 00:54:48.572
I'm like, okay.
00:54:48.632 --> 00:54:49.914
She likes Dateline.
00:54:49.954 --> 00:54:51.315
She likes this.
00:54:51.494 --> 00:54:52.875
And then Kate will tell us what to
00:54:52.894 --> 00:54:53.175
watch.
00:54:53.496 --> 00:54:54.675
It's a, it's a, it's a gift.
00:54:55.777 --> 00:54:56.458
Is she leaving?
00:54:56.557 --> 00:54:57.157
When is she leaving?
00:54:57.690 --> 00:54:58.891
So we're leaving on Friday.
00:54:59.092 --> 00:54:59.753
But Thursday night,
00:54:59.773 --> 00:55:00.713
we already know what to watch,
00:55:00.753 --> 00:55:01.954
but we don't have anything for tonight.
00:55:01.974 --> 00:55:03.635
What are you watching Thursday?
00:55:04.396 --> 00:55:07.177
We're going to watch Traitors and A Killer
00:55:07.358 --> 00:55:07.699
Story.
00:55:08.099 --> 00:55:08.599
Okay, good.
00:55:10.581 --> 00:55:11.161
What can we watch tonight?
00:55:11.181 --> 00:55:11.221
Oh,
00:55:11.240 --> 00:55:12.922
and then did you tell her about the
00:55:12.963 --> 00:55:14.523
Swans documentary?
00:55:15.224 --> 00:55:16.704
I've not told her about the Swan.
00:55:17.126 --> 00:55:19.186
Chris DeRosa is going to come on with
00:55:19.226 --> 00:55:20.668
me to talk about the Swan.
00:55:21.068 --> 00:55:22.989
Did you watch it yet on the screener?
00:55:23.309 --> 00:55:23.831
Okay.
00:55:24.010 --> 00:55:25.532
Did you agree with my assessment?
00:55:28.141 --> 00:55:28.463
Yeah,
00:55:28.684 --> 00:55:30.409
but here's my feeling because I
00:55:30.429 --> 00:55:32.074
interviewed the filmmaker and then two of
00:55:32.094 --> 00:55:33.840
the women.
00:55:33.900 --> 00:55:34.782
In the end, I was like,
00:55:36.568 --> 00:55:38.469
They went through this shitty experience,
00:55:38.489 --> 00:55:39.811
but it's like a love story to the
00:55:39.851 --> 00:55:41.592
women that, like, they totally bonded.
00:55:41.672 --> 00:55:43.333
And they're, like, great buddies now.
00:55:43.353 --> 00:55:44.815
Oh, that part of the story.
00:55:44.934 --> 00:55:45.775
I like that.
00:55:45.795 --> 00:55:47.498
I would like the whole thing to be
00:55:47.577 --> 00:55:49.619
about the women that went through this
00:55:49.659 --> 00:55:50.420
experience.
00:55:51.681 --> 00:55:52.862
I thought it was interesting telling
00:55:52.922 --> 00:55:53.402
about,
00:55:53.663 --> 00:55:54.704
and I won't ruin it because people are
00:55:54.724 --> 00:55:56.965
going to watch it, the swan.
00:55:56.985 --> 00:55:57.467
The swan.
00:55:57.547 --> 00:55:57.806
Zuh.
00:55:58.226 --> 00:56:02.072
I think that the experience of literally
00:56:02.112 --> 00:56:03.333
not being able to look in a mirror
00:56:03.353 --> 00:56:04.074
for three months.
00:56:04.273 --> 00:56:05.315
Oh, we did talk about that.
00:56:05.554 --> 00:56:07.197
It's really got to fuck with your brain.
00:56:07.717 --> 00:56:07.938
Yeah,
00:56:07.958 --> 00:56:10.621
the psychological damage and then what the
00:56:10.661 --> 00:56:11.922
doctors did to them.
00:56:12.063 --> 00:56:12.262
Yeah,
00:56:12.282 --> 00:56:13.463
I go into the whole thing about it.
00:56:13.664 --> 00:56:14.706
How did I forget Dr.
00:56:14.746 --> 00:56:15.766
Dubrow was on that show?
00:56:16.224 --> 00:56:18.025
Yeah, and then I ask Aaron,
00:56:18.405 --> 00:56:19.304
the director in it,
00:56:19.824 --> 00:56:20.925
why didn't he participate?
00:56:20.965 --> 00:56:22.465
Is it true that he asked for all
00:56:22.485 --> 00:56:22.925
this money?
00:56:22.965 --> 00:56:24.085
And she's like, it is.
00:56:24.106 --> 00:56:25.387
I go, well, how much?
00:56:26.246 --> 00:56:27.367
She wouldn't tell me, but she was like,
00:56:27.427 --> 00:56:29.387
it was like an astronomical amount of
00:56:29.427 --> 00:56:29.668
money.
00:56:30.427 --> 00:56:31.628
He must be embarrassed.
00:56:31.708 --> 00:56:32.009
He's like,
00:56:32.028 --> 00:56:32.949
I don't want to talk about it unless
00:56:32.969 --> 00:56:33.409
you pay me.
00:56:34.342 --> 00:56:36.244
um so you talked to aaron lee carr
00:56:37.125 --> 00:56:40.306
aaron lee carr and christy and carrie um
00:56:40.827 --> 00:56:42.608
aaron lee carr i'm so fascinated with
00:56:42.630 --> 00:56:45.192
because i loved her dad david carr the
00:56:45.231 --> 00:56:47.393
night of the gun i mean one of
00:56:47.414 --> 00:56:48.894
the greatest books of all time go read
00:56:48.914 --> 00:56:50.976
that book guys it's uh about her dad
00:56:51.036 --> 00:56:52.117
and his addiction and
00:56:52.557 --> 00:56:54.759
He was a huge, famous writer,
00:56:54.898 --> 00:56:56.019
and then she sort of followed in his
00:56:56.039 --> 00:56:56.360
footsteps.
00:56:56.380 --> 00:56:58.300
She's a very well-known documentary
00:56:58.320 --> 00:56:58.840
filmmaker.
00:56:58.860 --> 00:57:01.561
And then when I saw she was doing
00:57:01.581 --> 00:57:02.322
it, I was like – She told me,
00:57:02.362 --> 00:57:02.681
too.
00:57:02.742 --> 00:57:04.182
She has a bunch of sisters and went
00:57:04.202 --> 00:57:05.063
to an all-women's school.
00:57:05.103 --> 00:57:05.804
I was like, hey, girl.
00:57:05.824 --> 00:57:07.143
I was like, we're peeps.
00:57:07.204 --> 00:57:07.344
Yeah.
00:57:07.965 --> 00:57:08.364
Yeah.
00:57:08.925 --> 00:57:09.704
That's amazing.
00:57:10.585 --> 00:57:10.686
Yeah,
00:57:10.706 --> 00:57:11.666
that's another thing I'm going to be
00:57:11.706 --> 00:57:12.025
covering.
00:57:12.186 --> 00:57:16.268
And you interviewed her and two of the
00:57:16.268 --> 00:57:17.248
–
00:57:16.427 --> 00:57:17.791
Cast members, contestants,
00:57:17.891 --> 00:57:18.552
two of the swans.
00:57:18.713 --> 00:57:19.655
Two of the swans.
00:57:19.875 --> 00:57:20.496
Two of the swans.
00:57:20.817 --> 00:57:22.179
And they were so embarrassed their whole
00:57:22.219 --> 00:57:22.521
life.
00:57:22.561 --> 00:57:24.503
And I do like that because of this,
00:57:24.525 --> 00:57:25.425
I was like, look at you.
00:57:25.465 --> 00:57:26.588
You guys are so powerful.
00:57:27.338 --> 00:57:28.257
Yeah.
00:57:28.318 --> 00:57:29.619
Yeah.
00:57:30.059 --> 00:57:30.798
Kate, you're so good.
00:57:31.539 --> 00:57:32.820
So everybody make sure you're following
00:57:32.860 --> 00:57:34.440
Kate and tell everybody where they can
00:57:34.460 --> 00:57:36.360
find your sub stack and all the things.
00:57:36.981 --> 00:57:37.161
Okay.
00:57:37.181 --> 00:57:38.001
So you got to sign up at
00:57:38.041 --> 00:57:43.202
katecasey.substack.com and then make sure
00:57:43.262 --> 00:57:45.543
that you check out, I have bonus podcasts,
00:57:45.563 --> 00:57:47.784
which are great too on Apple podcast and
00:57:47.824 --> 00:57:49.704
Patreon and follow me on
00:57:50.764 --> 00:57:53.748
on social media because i always put up
00:57:53.788 --> 00:57:56.108
carousels of like the topics like i'll do
00:57:56.168 --> 00:57:58.271
one tonight about the swans so you would
00:57:58.291 --> 00:58:00.251
know like what's coming up and what what
00:58:00.291 --> 00:58:02.514
you should listen to yeah your carousels
00:58:02.534 --> 00:58:04.474
lately have really been killing it girl i
00:58:04.514 --> 00:58:06.896
know it's really exciting it's really good
00:58:06.916 --> 00:58:10.019
i uh i tell you uh being friends
00:58:10.039 --> 00:58:11.760
with kate you guys it's like being friends
00:58:11.780 --> 00:58:13.242
with the mayor of podcastville
00:58:13.847 --> 00:58:14.588
That's so kind.
00:58:14.648 --> 00:58:15.088
Thank you.
00:58:17.248 --> 00:58:19.630
Kate and I did a limited series last
00:58:19.730 --> 00:58:21.130
year, I think.
00:58:22.150 --> 00:58:23.311
Oh, we got to bring it back.
00:58:23.351 --> 00:58:23.990
We got to bring it back.
00:58:24.030 --> 00:58:25.492
It was called Tell Me Everything with Kate
00:58:25.552 --> 00:58:25.992
and Mary Payne.
00:58:26.692 --> 00:58:28.893
And we told each other stories and they
00:58:28.913 --> 00:58:29.353
were really good.
00:58:29.373 --> 00:58:30.653
And they were either personal stories or
00:58:30.673 --> 00:58:31.554
stories that we hadn't heard.
00:58:32.235 --> 00:58:33.956
I am suggesting for our next round,
00:58:33.976 --> 00:58:35.418
which I really want to do like December.
00:58:35.458 --> 00:58:37.342
We got to get through all these shows
00:58:37.382 --> 00:58:37.922
in November.
00:58:37.983 --> 00:58:38.923
And plus I'm going to Italy.
00:58:38.983 --> 00:58:40.346
So I got to think about it after
00:58:40.827 --> 00:58:41.007
that.
00:58:41.027 --> 00:58:43.710
I wanted to tell me everything about a
00:58:43.791 --> 00:58:45.672
cult and we find a cult that the
00:58:45.733 --> 00:58:46.715
other one doesn't know about.
00:58:46.855 --> 00:58:48.157
And we tell each other about the cult.
00:58:48.456 --> 00:58:49.996
Oh, yeah.
00:58:50.077 --> 00:58:51.577
I think I'm going to cover one soon.
00:58:51.838 --> 00:58:52.018
Yeah.
00:58:52.038 --> 00:58:53.217
Because you probably have six in your
00:58:53.257 --> 00:58:53.717
brain.
00:58:53.737 --> 00:58:55.259
Oh, yes.
00:58:55.518 --> 00:58:56.599
Because I got a cult the other day.
00:58:56.659 --> 00:58:57.880
And even if we do know about it,
00:58:58.219 --> 00:58:59.760
one of us may know more and could
00:58:59.780 --> 00:59:00.481
tell the other one.
00:59:01.081 --> 00:59:02.481
It's just fun to just go over what
00:59:02.501 --> 00:59:04.023
their crazy like, you know,
00:59:04.043 --> 00:59:05.222
mission statement is, et cetera,
00:59:05.242 --> 00:59:05.503
et cetera.
00:59:05.764 --> 00:59:05.923
Yeah.
00:59:06.003 --> 00:59:06.284
I mean,
00:59:06.324 --> 00:59:07.905
like you think Scientology would take it
00:59:07.925 --> 00:59:09.545
like way down to a cult that only
00:59:09.565 --> 00:59:10.525
has like six followers.
00:59:10.786 --> 00:59:11.085
Yeah.
00:59:11.146 --> 00:59:11.445
Love it.
00:59:11.646 --> 00:59:12.407
Love it.
00:59:12.427 --> 00:59:13.146
Like Teal Swan.
00:59:14.186 --> 00:59:16.628
yeah come on not to be confused with
00:59:16.668 --> 00:59:19.128
the swans um so we're gonna probably bring
00:59:19.148 --> 00:59:21.210
that back guys but if you want to
00:59:21.329 --> 00:59:23.210
hear it it is on case patreon it's
00:59:23.251 --> 00:59:26.072
on my patreon as well so everybody make
00:59:26.092 --> 00:59:27.552
sure you're following us on social media
00:59:27.592 --> 00:59:29.472
kate casey is kate casey ca
00:59:30.072 --> 00:59:32.414
yes and i am pink shade pod and
00:59:32.735 --> 00:59:34.476
i will see you guys if you're on
00:59:34.516 --> 00:59:35.876
pink shade prime i'll see you tomorrow
00:59:35.916 --> 00:59:39.338
with my last resort recap and hope
00:59:39.358 --> 00:59:41.099
everybody listened to my interview with
00:59:41.159 --> 00:59:42.961
ross matthews that i put out on monday
00:59:42.981 --> 00:59:45.342
oh yeah he's such a delight yeah yeah
00:59:45.362 --> 00:59:46.403
okay bye kate thank you